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Jeff Stahler

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  1. l-empress68

    l-empress68 said, 10 months ago

    You don’t have to worry. They’re dumbing them down.

  2. Michael wme

    Michael wme said, 10 months ago

    The SAT was revised in 2005, and now they want to go back to the pre-2005 version.

  3. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, 10 months ago

    Because despite their attempts to make it more valid, they really don’t know how, and keep using the same old tools.

  4. lonecat

    lonecat said, 10 months ago

    @motivemagus

    Are you in favor of some kind of college board test? We don’t have them here in Canada, and we seem to get along just fine. But I’m no expert on the topic, so I’d be interested in an informed opinion.

  5. magicwalnut

    magicwalnut GoComics PRO Member said, 10 months ago

    Nah! It’s probably a conspiracy with the universities to fluff up the Freshman class, often taught by grad students rather than full profs; the freshmen drop out after a year, because they can’t cut it, and the universities use the cash to build a new stadium and hire a million dollar a year football coach, to attract more freshmen who would be better off learning a lucrative trade.

  6. Melekalikimaka

    Melekalikimaka said, 10 months ago

    @lonecat

    It’s a test that tests the knowledge of the student after 12 years of basic education, plus a bit of an IQ test worked in there. The scores reported on college applications can determine acceptance if it’s a private university, determining placement in prestigious or even community colleges. Scores can determine some scholarships or federal grants. Some lines of employment look at your SAT scores in selecting those for some entry level positions and internships.

  7. lonecat

    lonecat said, 10 months ago

    @Melekalikimaka

    Thanks for the information. I actually took the SAT many many years ago, and then the Grad Record some years after that. At the time they were hoops to jump through. I took them but I didn’t take them seriously. I’ve now lived in Canada for many years, and we don’t have them here. So I was just wondering if people the US think they are a good thing or a waste of time, energy, and money.

  8. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, 10 months ago

    @lonecat

    No, I am not. Or at least, not the one we have. It has no correlation with anything beyond first-year grades in college; it is susceptible to “test-conscious” people who just understand test logic better; there is reason to believe it is culturally biased. And it is a gigantic scam.
    Most schools want something easy to judge, because they can’t afford to do a one-at-a-time judgment call the way they do at the Ivy League schools. But the SAT is not a good choice.w

  9. lonecat

    lonecat said, 10 months ago

    @motivemagus

    Thanks. That’s helpful.

  10. martens misses all her friends

    martens misses all her friends GoComics PRO Member said, 10 months ago

    @lonecat

    I know that at my college in my day, we were all “test takers”. We knew that, but at the time (50 yrs ago), it maybe wasn’t such a big thing, plus the college required an interview in the admission process. Now, however, they are going more away from the tests and going more on the individual evaluation in an effort to be more inclusive and diverse. Of course, a very small college like mine with a good reputation can afford to do this more easily than the mega-universities. I really begin to wonder about the effect of having a research university with a full-blown grad program in the same arena as an undergrad program. Seems to me that there is a real danger that the undergrads will lose out.

  11. lonecat

    lonecat said, 10 months ago

    @martens misses all her friends

    Back in 1966, one of the colleges I applied to sent someone out to our house in the country to interview me. He was an alum, and he regarded it as pay-back for the education he had received. They had a whole network of alums doing interviews all across the country. I went to visit the other college I applied to and sat in on classes. I think they would have sent someone to interview me if I hadn’t visited.

  12. ORMouseworks

    ORMouseworks said, 10 months ago

    @lonecat

    “So I was just wondering if people the US think they are a good thing or a waste of time, energy, and money.”

    Yes to All of the above…what Should be measured is high school grades freshmen through senior…community activities…and such. Not a one-time test that frustrates most and turns off many. Have to admit, I hated the thought of taking it and so I didn’t. Went to community college then, after many years, went to university where I graduated with a 3.9 …the SAT be damned… ;)

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