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Lets assume for a moment that all these claims about global warming are correct and the world is going to melt like a Popsicle on a hot day. What are the financial costs expected and how is it supposed to get paid for?
As I understand the fear of climate change cost, it hinges on the change in the ability to produce food (drought) and the increase in catastrophic weather events (50 billion for Sandy) the damage to the oceans with higher acid levels and the damage to coastal cities along with lose of land mass due to rising water levels.
So it is still just data being processed for the most part, giving us an idea of what “might” happen ( and I believe that climates do indeed change and always have). And so the actual cost can not be totaled. No there will be no way to “pay” for it. It must be endured.
So if the climate in the US changes and the land where we grow the food that feeds the world is overcome by drought (look at the drought maps http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/drought/) then people will starve, populations will relocate, cities will be inundated with refugees, and government welfare will become unsustainable (as if it isn’t now).
So rather than fighting a losing battle why are we not preparing to survive the coming catastrophe? I think we are, but you and I are on our own ’cause we are not part of the “elite”.
You can have costs, other than financial. It can be “the expenditure of something such as time or labor necessary for the achievement of a goal.” , Neater than throwing things out the window and cheaper than curbside trash pickup is taking it to the dump yourself, relativiely speaking.
2050 is the date the food supply will be smaller than the population, even if global warming stopped right now today. . I personally believe the world waited too long already, but with climate change in the mix the future may be shorter than the optimum. . Facts, pull out the thermometer and read the number. I find this close enough to be an answer to “when is that happening, canookie?”
Financial costs mentioned below. Also the world will not melt. The issue is that a 4 degree average weather change is far more severe. May seem small but remember
Good times -——— Bad times
Unemployment 4% 8% Growth 3% 1% Margins are what most of life is based off of.
First: AGW and climate change is very real, and nobodies saying the planet is “melting like a popsicle”. From the economic standpoint, what the science is warning is that doing nothing now, will see a “down the road” increased cost many, many, times greater! Of course, that many species, including food species, terrestrial and aquatic (plant and animal) will be lost as a result of climate change, the cost in human life WILL be great, but that’s only posterity some 100 years down the road, so who the “f” cares? Right?
Tell that to the people who get killed in Hurricanes every year…… or lightning storms….. or tornadoes….. . ….and if you were a real charter boat captain, you’d know about Waterspouts.
Great reply to Mickey’s great question. Tho I don’t know what you mean in your last sentence. And I assure you, if you believe in Climate Change and also believe it has real consequences that will effect pocket books and lives, you are not “on your own”, and in fact, you are a very welcome member of a very concerned group of people. Respectfully, C.
As much s I would like to believe that, I fear I am too strange a duck to be included in any survival group. I am prepared to make it on my own if necessary with supplies and the means to feed and shelter my family already on hand.
Maybe a small community is best andI think the catastrophe will not be heat but cold. We will raise global temps just enough to alter global currents, the ice cap will melt enough to quit warming the north Atlantic and soon, ice age. But that’s just me.
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mickey1339
said, 4 months ago
Lets assume for a moment that all these claims about global warming are correct and the world is going to melt like a Popsicle on a hot day. What are the financial costs expected and how is it supposed to get paid for?
Radish
said, 4 months ago
His right eye can’t see the chart.
ConserveGov said, 4 months ago
Luckily Barry is doing a good job with the equality part since the middle class is now near poverty.
Ms. Ima said, 4 months ago
O is sure working hard for government to make it easy to create jobs. Higher taxes, higher taxes and higher taxes are no way to go through life, son.
DrCanuck said, 4 months ago
@mickey1339
When it’s too hot to grow food and several billion people are starving, do you think anyone will be worrying about the “financial costs” of survival?
Bruce4671 said, 4 months ago
@mickey1339
As I understand the fear of climate change cost, it hinges on the change in the ability to produce food (drought) and the increase in catastrophic weather events (50 billion for Sandy) the damage to the oceans with higher acid levels and the damage to coastal cities along with lose of land mass due to rising water levels.
So it is still just data being processed for the most part, giving us an idea of what “might” happen ( and I believe that climates do indeed change and always have). And so the actual cost can not be totaled. No there will be no way to “pay” for it. It must be endured.
So if the climate in the US changes and the land where we grow the food that feeds the world is overcome by drought (look at the drought maps http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/drought/) then people will starve, populations will relocate, cities will be inundated with refugees, and government welfare will become unsustainable (as if it isn’t now).
So rather than fighting a losing battle why are we not preparing to survive the coming catastrophe? I think we are, but you and I are on our own ’cause we are not part of the “elite”.
ansonia
said, 4 months ago
@Mr. King
You can have costs, other than financial. It can be “the expenditure of something such as time or labor necessary for the achievement of a goal.”
,
Neater than throwing things out the window and cheaper than curbside trash pickup is taking it to the dump yourself, relativiely speaking.
Stipple said, 4 months ago
2050 is the date the food supply will be smaller than the population, even if global warming stopped right now today.
.
I personally believe the world waited too long already, but with climate change in the mix the future may be shorter than the optimum.
.
Facts, pull out the thermometer and read the number.
I find this close enough to be an answer to “when is that happening, canookie?”
Quipss said, 4 months ago
@mickey1339
Financial costs mentioned below. Also the world will not melt. The issue is that a 4 degree average weather change is far more severe. May seem small but remember
Good times-——— Bad timesUnemployment 4% 8%
Growth 3% 1%
Margins are what most of life is based off of.
DrCanuck said, 4 months ago
@
HOWGOZIT said, “And just when is that happening, canookie?”
Now.
ansonia
said, 4 months ago
@DrCanuck
Yeah it’s so hot out the water pipe in my back yard froze and broke last week.
dtroutma
said, 4 months ago
First: AGW and climate change is very real, and nobodies saying the planet is “melting like a popsicle”. From the economic standpoint, what the science is warning is that doing nothing now, will see a “down the road” increased cost many, many, times greater! Of course, that many species, including food species, terrestrial and aquatic (plant and animal) will be lost as a result of climate change, the cost in human life WILL be great, but that’s only posterity some 100 years down the road, so who the “f” cares? Right?
Ketira shena Pretarasedrin
said, 4 months ago
@
Tell that to the people who get killed in Hurricanes every year…… or lightning storms….. or tornadoes…..
.
….and if you were a real charter boat captain, you’d know about Waterspouts.
Respectful Troll said, 4 months ago
@Bruce4671
Great reply to Mickey’s great question. Tho I don’t know what you mean in your last sentence. And I assure you, if you believe in Climate Change and also believe it has real consequences that will effect pocket books and lives, you are not “on your own”, and in fact, you are a very welcome member of a very concerned group of people.
Respectfully,
C.
Bruce4671 said, 4 months ago
@Respectful Troll
As much s I would like to believe that, I fear I am too strange a duck to be included in any survival group. I am prepared to make it on my own if necessary with supplies and the means to feed and shelter my family already on hand.
Maybe a small community is best andI think the catastrophe will not be heat but cold. We will raise global temps just enough to alter global currents, the ice cap will melt enough to quit warming the north Atlantic and soon, ice age. But that’s just me.