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Jeff Stahler

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  1. mikefive

    mikefive said, over 2 years ago

    I think it would be a better cartoon if it displayed a couple of our youth standing in front of it.

  2. jonesb

    jonesb said, over 2 years ago

    He’s honored to be the first President to stomp all over the constitution. Read “Forced Into Glory: Abraham Lincoln’s White Dream” by Lerone Bennett, Jr, African-American scholar, author and social historian. Lincoln was a racist among other things.

  3. narrowminded

    narrowminded said, over 2 years ago

    @jonesb

    That’s right, read one book and call a man a racist.
    An inane and moronic post.

  4. mikefive

    mikefive said, over 2 years ago

    That book sounds like required reading for the Farrakhan crowd to reinforce their racist attitude. Of course the other 15,000 books written about Lincoln (a real number, by the way) may fail to emphasize your point.

  5. ARodney

    ARodney said, over 2 years ago

    Almost anyone alive in the 1860s was a racist. It was pretty common at the time. The amazing thing about Lincoln and the abolitionists was that they stood against slavery anyway.

  6. Fourcrows

    Fourcrows said, over 2 years ago

    “I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”

    by:

    Abraham Lincoln
    (1809-1865) 16th US President
    Source:

    Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858
    (The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume III, pp. 145-146.)

  7. JoeCoolLives

    JoeCoolLives said, over 2 years ago

    @Fourcrows

    Well, I’ll be d*mned!…

  8. fritzoid

    fritzoid GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    Might it be possible that, between 1858 and 1865, Lincoln’s attitudes “evolved”?

  9. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    As I stood at the foot of the statue, and looked over to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, I realized that what Abe is really thinking is: “When will they ever, learn?”

  10. Archimedes

    Archimedes said, over 2 years ago

    Really? Proof? Oh yea that senator from Weat Virginia, what was his name, Byrd that’s right he became a republican right?

  11. Archimedes

    Archimedes said, over 2 years ago

    @Fourcrows

    Yes, again you wish to put the mores of the 21st century on an earlier time. Compare that to later writings, and more importantly to his actions. Here is a shock, ready?? Lincoln was prejudiced. So are you, so am I. What matters is not our prejudices—though we should all work to correct them—but whether we allow them to colour our judgements.

  12. Archimedes

    Archimedes said, over 2 years ago

    @dtroutma

    This shows a vast lack of understanding of the man.

  13. ronald rini

    ronald rini said, over 2 years ago

    The war not fought for slavery it started because the south go tired of being taxed so the north could live like royality. And most of the north said he let them go. But the president made it about slavery so that people will get mad and fight (this is something a lot of blacks forget. Many white people died to free them.

  14. Fourcrows

    Fourcrows said, over 2 years ago

    @Archimedes

    What I did was only post a quote in response to a supposed question from Howie. I offered no opinion or skew in any way. Was Lincoln racist? Yes, as was the vast majority of white people at the time. I am not judging him through 21st century filters. As a musician, I have defended Wagner with the same argument: there were no musicians before 1950 who weren’t anti-semitic, unless they were themselves Jewish. It was just the way it was.
    Now, can anyone provide the quotes to show his attitude actually changed? I can provide more that showed up until his death he still intended a deportation of African Americans as opposed to providing any civil rights. If you can post them, then perhaps the readers can make a judgement themselves. Yes, he was more progressive than many of his tjme, but he was still just as rascist as most.

  15. 3hourtour

    3hourtour GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    @ronald rini

    ..yeah,and fairy dust makes your pee green…

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