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  1. emptc12

    emptc12 said, about 2 years ago

    A suggested Oprah Special: “The Clintons Reconcile With Monica Lewinsky”: Special guest stars: Kenneth Starr and Linda Tripp. Many tears shed, sincere apologies, and a group hug at the end as the credits roll. Or maybe a Jerry Springer special would be more appropriate.
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    Poor used and abused, beleaguered and unappreciated Clintons. Will an accumulated nearly $100 million for speaking engagements ever make up for the shame and embarrassment? The least they have done is buy one of Lewinsky’s purses.
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    I think the whole situation was a sickening travesty for all involved, but how could Republicans possibly resist taking advantage? To paraphrase what Danziger occasionally says in an editorial cartoon, Sometimes you wake up and find they’ve done the job for you.
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    How would the U.S. and the world be different today if Bill Clinton had restrained himself? Or even paid to have the blue dress dry-cleaned?

  2. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, about 2 years ago

    Or, like 80+% of the world, including many Roman Catholics, we could have ignored the Lewinski bit as a non-story in the first place, and recognize that a mistress, instead of divorce, is accepted by most of the world.

  3. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, about 2 years ago

    P.S., but serial marriages by famous people are totally acceptable.

  4. ARodney

    ARodney said, about 2 years ago

    @emptc12

    They could have left infidelity as a matter for the family, since it’s not in anyway illegal. Impeaching the president should be saved for times when the government is corrupt, for Nixon, and arguably Reagan (for his blatant law-breaking in Iran-Contra) and Bush (for lying to the American people) not for Clinton or Obama.

  5. emptc12

    emptc12 said, about 2 years ago

    @dtroutma

    I agree that in the large scheme of things — germs to galaxies, glowworms to quasars — this was not the most important. After all, several politicians involved in the process of impeachment were found to be cheating on their wives. But Clinton begged for it by making such a big point of LYING about it practically on centerstage. He must have seen “Guide For the Married Man” too many times (“Deny, deny, deny”).
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    It’s one the most stupid things I’ve seen a politician do. At the quantum branching point before his pleasurable spasm, where he did not do it or at least aimed somewhere else, it would be interesting to see what happened in that parallel universe: was Gore elected, did the Afghanistan and Iraqi wars occur the same, did so many people die as a result?
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    Some adults remain fog-bound children way past the normal time, and I think Bill Clinton is one such.

  6. Jase99

    Jase99 GoComics PRO Member said, about 2 years ago

    http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2014/05/monica-lewinsky-speaks

  7. MangeyMoose

    MangeyMoose said, about 2 years ago

    @dtroutma

    Correct. Back in that time, my job had me on the phone with British, French, Swiss and Poles often. After business, we often chatted. They all chuckled at the press covering Monica, and realized it was just Republican mud-slinging. “So he poked a pig! So what!” one said to me. But, this is just another well-used chapter from Karl Rove’s Republican handbook. Dig up as much as you can, and keep throwing. Even if it’s not true, keep throwing! Keep your opponent off-balance! Keep him/Her on the defensive! They did this to Bill during his second term, and to Kerry during his presidential bid. And, they are building up to barrage Hillary. Soon, we will hear from independent, private “citizen” committees, joining in on the attacks.

    Yes, American politics can be very vicious, and has been so since the end of George Washington’s second term. But the current right has fine-tuned it, and brought it to new lows.

    After the Republicans searched through all the sewers, and found their new darling, she will make a lot of money!

  8. mikefive

    mikefive said, about 2 years ago

    I think Mr. Danziger is doing Ms. Lewinski a considerable disservice in the way he is portraying her. I can remember no time when she conducted herself in the manner portrayed.

  9. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, about 2 years ago

    @mikefive

    Agreed. Mr. Danziger may be correct in pointing out the Republican strategy of continuing to throw….stuff….but she was basically a teenager with a crush in a very heady position. She confided in a person she thought was a friend, who blabbed to Ken Starr, who couldn’t find anything illegal with Whitewater, and had to come up with ANYTHING to justify his paycheck.

    Also agreed that if Bill Clinton had gone on TV and admitted to doing it and appeared halfway contrite, especially if he would have apologized to both Ms. Lewinsky and his wife for the trauma this had caused them, we could easily have moved on, and no impeachment proceedings would have been considered.

    Similarly, if Mr. Nixon had gone on TV, admitted to the fact his underlings had gone too far, and taken responsibility (the buck stops here), he might have avoided his fate. Don’t get me wrong: I was glad to see him go. A person with that much power combined with that much paranoia is most certainly unpredictable and dangerous. But his own hubris caused his downfall.

  10. Mr. Ngn33r

    Mr. Ngn33r GoComics PRO Member said, about 2 years ago

    @I Play One On TV

    Sorry, Ms Lewinski was not literally nor intellectually, a “teenager”. She was 22 years old, had a Psychology Degree and a 5 year affair with a married professor under her belt. A Political / Power groupie, perhaps, and / or emotionally needy, with no intent to produce the chaos that ensued. What Bill did was (wrongly?) take advantage of an(-other) opportunity, as “Guys” are prone to do. Yes, Bill likely would have been better served had he admitted and repudiated his actions -“mistakes were made” seems to work with either Party – and put the event behind him – and us. That Mr. Gingrich, amidst his own more reprehensible doings, lead the charge with Starr, for impeachment is particularly laughable and telling of the Republicans’ real agenda – hint: Morality was NOT it.

  11. louieglutz

    louieglutz said, about 2 years ago

    i guess it’s ok for a ceo to have sex with his employees. no coercion there. try it in the private sector.

  12. mikefive

    mikefive said, about 2 years ago

    @Mr. Ngn33r

    “Morality was NOT it.”

    You’re right. Morality was not it. It was obstruction of justice (shades of Nixon?) and perjury.

  13. mikefive

    mikefive said, about 2 years ago

    “i guess it’s ok for a ceo to have sex with his employees. no coercion there. try it in the private sector.”

    Ms. Lewinski freely admits that it was consensual.

  14. babka

    babka GoComics PRO Member said, about 2 years ago

    bingo

  15. D Lee

    D Lee GoComics PRO Member said, about 2 years ago

    @ARodney

    Clinton wasn’t impeached for getting a blow job. He was impeached for lying about it to the press, which I suspect roughly 110% of married men would have done including probably 90% of the men who impeached him.

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