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Michyle Glen said, 7 months ago
Now there is logic for you.
Respectful Troll said, 7 months ago
http://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/news/20000508/marijuana-unlikely-to-cause-cancer
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C.
Bruce4671 said, 7 months ago
February 9, 2007 |
“American taxpayers are now spending more than a billion dollars per year to incarcerate its citizens for pot. That’s according to statistics recently released by the U.S. Department of Justice’s Bureau of Justice Statistics.”
http://www.alternet.org/story/47815/pot_prisoners_cost_americans_$1_billion_a_year
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbaz
Hey, I understand that there are a lot of people out there that are really concerned about others health. So yes tobacco use is linked to cancer and numerous other health issues. Smoking Pot is also going to generate some of those health issues if not all of them. Alcohol use is another drug that generates health issues. So does eating meat or not exercising.
Are we going to legislate everything? Are we going to lock up meat eaters too?
Quit it people. Freedom is under attack. Stay out of my personal choices as long as I hurt no one but myself.
I don’t smoke of drink (I eat a bunch of meat) but those that choose to do so should not be put in jail.
Ionizer said, 7 months ago
@Bruce4671
“Quit it people. Freedom is under attack. Stay out of my personal choices as long as I hurt no one but myself.
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So how do we resurrect those who are killed by a stoned driver? Drunks get enough, and you want to add more, I guess.
Dredpiraterobt$ said, 7 months ago
@Bruce4671
Good post. (it could use some link tech)
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I do know how to drink.
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If smoking pot is like riding a bicycle, then I guess I would know how to do that too.
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I used to enjoy cigars, until every wannabee yuppie hipster doofus and his brother took up cigars and took the fun out of them.
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I smoked cigarettes when I was a young teen until my father hit me in the shin with a pushbroom so hard that parts of my leg were hanging out of the gaping wound! (I got the message that smoking was bad for my health!)
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I don’t know if I can make a convincing argument that smoking cigarettes ought to be illegal… But they ought to be!
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If there were a dividing line I would put it at addictive. Will this product “Hook” you? If the answer is “yes” then it should be subcriminal.
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It’s, of course hard to identify what is addictive. In my experience there is an “Addictive Personality” which is prone to addiction of any type (addicted to exercize, addicted to shopping, addicted to cigarettes…) I don’t know that I believe that Alcohol is addictive, but there are those who are certainly addicted. Cigars didn’t addict me to nicotine, but I know of many who feel they MUST smoke.
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I also don’t believe that tobbacco smoke, in moderation is particularly harmful to your health. Unfortunately, “Moderation” is almost never the case in the case of smokers, and in crowd situations it becomes a problem. I am extremely happy that smoking in crowds is a thing of the past.
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That pot prisoners caost us a Billion dollars per year is nothing compared to what a pot conviction costs the convicted for the rest of their lives!
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I don’t think that comparing the two is anything but a false equivalency. (That’s to you Gary Varvel) .
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“Subcriminal” as a classification makes the product legal, but the habitual usage ought to trigger a response that aides the addict without making them either a ward of or an enemy of the state. (It doesn’t exist today.)
Bruce4671 said, 7 months ago
@Ionizer
Well, “20 years of study has concluded that marijuana smokers may actually be getting a bad rap and that they may actually have fewer accidents than other drivers. There have been several studies done over the past 20 years and every one of them has revealed that using marijuana actually has a very minor, if any, effect on the ability of a person to drive a car or other vehicle”.
http://www.4autoinsurancequote.com/uncategorized/reasons-why-marijuana-users-are-safe-drivers/
Of course you can find this as well:
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/story/health/story/2012-02-09/Marijuana-users-twice-as-likely-to-cause-car-crash/53031202/1
As for resurrection? Are you a “believer” ?
How about some sympathy for the 12 million babies that were aborted over the last 12 years? Oh that’s right those lives don’t count.
Chillbilly
said, 7 months ago
I’ve been smoking pot for 35 years and still do, daily. Finished college ahead of schedule. Worked at big corporations. Went to grad school. Started a company (which has been successful). Pay high taxes. Happily married to a woman who only occasionally indulges in pot. Haven’t had a driving violation since 1990 (wasn’t stoned).
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I feel the same way about tobacco smokers and drinkers as I do about pot smokers: live and let live. We all know what the risks and costs of abuse are.
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That being said, this cartoon is dumb. Most pot smokers I know are, or have been, or are sympathetic to cigarette smokers and often feel oppressed about that as well.
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And to the poster above who somehow is trying to rope abortions into this discussion … dude … take a hit.
Dredpiraterobt$ said, 7 months ago
@Chillbilly
“Haven’t had a driving violation since 1990 (wasn’t stoned).”
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“I’ve been smoking pot for 35 years and still do, daily. "
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Then you need to get yourself a better dealer!
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If you smoke daily, then you are smoked! This I know from experience.
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You can only know if you have been a chronic smoker for years and then stopped and then smoked some years after you straightened out.
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It takes days for the pot to totally wear out. You’re not “high” but neither are you “striaght”.
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Alcohol burns away much more quickly than THC does. You can burn off alcohol with strenuous activity. But THC is a more complex molecule that doesn’t flame out like alcohol.
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More power to ya, and what not. And I’m not saying the purple haze was what caused your driving violation. I’m just stating the fact that you CAN NOT state categorically that (given the information you provided) it had no impact on decisions you made at the time.
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It may not have, but… you can not know.
Bruce4671 said, 7 months ago
@Chillbilly
Dude, I did. The point was that no one knows when you will die or how it will happen. My detractor claimed that his sympathy would lie with those killed due to a stoned driver. Well, I simply asked does he have the same feelings for those 12 million children that did not get the chance to grow up to drive stoned or not.
you pay your money and you take your chances.
MortyForTyrant said, 7 months ago
I quit smoking six years ago and never looked back. I never was into pot, it doesn’t agree with my body. Other people get silly, i get the runs and spend the night on the toilet, so there. But even if I would be able to smoke pot, medically and legally, I would apply the same rules for driving that I use with alcohol: don’t drink and drive! I’m a very good driver and I have no intention to blemish my record of zero incidents in 30 years (and no, I’m no slouch, just obeying the limits). So for me other people smoking pot is okay, but do it at home, please, or have a designated driver, thank you…
Ron
said, 7 months ago
Typical liberal insanity.
Chillbilly
said, 7 months ago
OK Bruce. Cool. I get it.
As far as daily smoking goes, I’ve taken a pass for extended periods of time for whatever reason (usually to take piss tests for jobs). After a while I can’t see why not smoking is any better than smoking other than for the mild health issues.
olfart said, 7 months ago
@ Ionizer
Nothing about this cartoon suggests legalizing impaired driving.
Dredpiraterobt$ said, 7 months ago
@Chillbilly
I think you are mixing up Bruce4671’s posts and mine…
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Bad timing, it’s lke misspelling “Moron” when calling someone it.
Chillbilly
said, 6 months ago
@Dredpiraterobt$
It was for Bruce, but oddly relevant to yours as well.