Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau

Doonesbury

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  1. leftwingpatriot

    leftwingpatriot said, over 3 years ago

    How will anybody be able to tell when Walden is throwing a game?

  2. DylanThomas3.14159

    DylanThomas3.14159 said, over 3 years ago

    Trudeau’s hanging onto this vets-come-home issue — as my late daddy used to say — like a bulldog on a root.

  3. leftwingpatriot

    leftwingpatriot said, over 3 years ago

    The BD character has completely opposite political views than his creator, Trudeau. Yet, GT has no problem in making BD a heroic character.

  4. formally known as doc white

    formally known as doc white said, over 3 years ago

    We vets will take any and all help we can get. Hell it only took 40 years to get a thank you for the lives i tried to save in vietnam. Its the same for all of them. Not bitter, just tired/.

  5. DylanThomas3.14159

    DylanThomas3.14159 said, over 3 years ago

    There’s a lot to be said for BD. Two examples: He loves his family and is good to them. He sticks up for himself and for all returned vets.

  6. tigre1

    tigre1 said, over 3 years ago

    I’m getting some positives about my green beret time in the 60’s. Now. People like my work ethic. Mostly before that I was a pet, perhaps explosive.
    You know, get me drunk, get me laid, nobody gets hurt.

    Now I’m just a nice old guy. Girls like me…but it’s too late.
    Mostly.

  7. Hdsrnkr

    Hdsrnkr said, over 3 years ago

    I don’t understand, DT or Leftwing…Trudeau is obviously a liberal, as am I. But I think Trudeau is trying to present a more nuanced view. As a psychologist who has worked with Veterans from military conflicts ranging back to WWII, I know very well that persons with very conservative opinions often change when they experience war.
    BD was very conservative, and he will probably remain so. But he feels the pain of his brothers-in-arms. And brothers-in-arms are intent on having their brother’s backs. His brothers are not being cared for…and , as a warrior, BD will not accept that.
    That is not a liberal vs conservative issue.
    It is a right vs wrong issue. Sometimes politics don’t matter. On some fine issues, right and wrong should be obvious.
    I hate war, partly because I have spent my professional career trying to cobble lives back together after they have been destroyed by war. But anyone with a good heart should realize that we can never confuse any war with our Warriors who simply do their jobs and try to protect us all.
    I never meet a Veteran without thanking them for their service to our country. They are often embarrassed, and do not know what to say. And they will say they never saw battle.
    But they stood ready to defend our country. They were willing to take a bullet, quite literally, to protect ME.
    Can you say the same for yourself?

  8. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, over 3 years ago

    University of Phoenix has no problem admitting vets. In fact, they send out salesmen to recruit them, and everybody else. Urge them to take out loans, use their GI Bill money, whatever it takes to “pursue their dreams”.

    But getting a degree online is not easy. I did it, tho’ through a brick & mortar college, not through U of P. No classes, all homework, and nothing of the reinforcing loop of being on a campus amid other students.

    The majority of U of P students do not finish the program they start, and wind up with no degree and a pile of debt; owed, of course, to Uncle Sam. U of P doesn’t care, they’re in it as a business, not as a university (yes, there is still a difference, thank God). With vets it is a little different, they have less debt, but Uncle Sam is still out of the money, and the vet is no better off. In 2008-2009, U of P received more than $650 milllion in Pell Grant money, and 16% of the students enrolled actually finished with degrees, if you count only those students who enroll with nothing more than a high school diploma or GED, as the D. of Ed. does. U of P claims 59% graduation rate, saying that most of their students come at later ages, having left some other college earlier, and the D. of Ed. standard is wrong.

    Apparently the U of P is cleaning up its act lately, which accounts for the drop from 600,000 students last year to 400,000 this year. Settling the lawsuits and reforming its hard-sell, commission-based recruiting practices. And I am sure it fills a niche.

    Some systems provide higher education at public expense, but only to those who have demonstrated they are likely to succeed at it, and prove worth the investment to society. Other systems provide a higher education to all who are able to pay for it.

    Is it productive, however, to provide the opportunity to all, at no immediate expense to themselves, when so many are unable to profit from it? It seems that in practice this can lead to large bills for Uncle Sam and little real benefit to the students, especially in the hands of mercenary institutions which exist only to serve the bottom line, and educational quality be damned. Or worse, large numbers with no degree, a sense of having failed, and a huge debt which even bankruptcy cannot discharge.

    I don’t want to be too hard on U of P, and I don’t know that I have a solution. We need a better-educated workforce, we are falling behind many other countries, but throwing tuition money (and nothing else) at the problem may not work. Not everyone can hold down a job, raise a family, AND earn a degree all at the same time.

  9. Sandfan

    Sandfan GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    I’ve never understood “legacies”. Why should an individual be favored at an institution because his parent attended?

  10. Lewreader

    Lewreader said, over 3 years ago

    When I got home, State U gave me free tuition (not fees) and advised I grow some hair . Got to take courses about the murderous happenings in S.E. Asia. Grew my hair.

  11. Alabama_Al

    Alabama_Al said, over 3 years ago

    @Sandfan

    Oh, I don’t know Sandfan. Why don’t you ask the administration of Yale University, who’s rather notorious in doing such things? It’s commonly acknowledged that one of the august institution’s well-known attendees, George W. Bush, would never have been admitted to Yale by normal academic criteria if not for the boost of being related to two other prominent alumni – G.W. Bush’s father and grandfather. (Yale is also G. Trudeau’s alma mater; Class of 1970, I believe.)

  12. NebulousRikulau

    NebulousRikulau GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    @Sandfan

    Re: Legacies

    Because a Univer$ity $tand$ $taunchly by it$ $olvent a$$ociate$.
    In other words, you graduated, you support the Alumni Association, your kid gets an edge in admission. The more support the better.

  13. ajnotales

    ajnotales said, over 3 years ago

    Doc, I’ve been thanking vets for forty years – sorry it’s taken so long to get to you … Thank You, doc…

  14. Finbar Gurdy

    Finbar Gurdy said, over 3 years ago

    @Doughfoot

    UoP provides the tools and takes the money for the use of them. Students are then expected to take those tools and use them to achieve their goal. The bigger problem is not UoP, but the lack of work ethic that infests our entitled society.

  15. Oak Ridge Boy61

    Oak Ridge Boy61 GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    @leftwingpatriot

    That’s called being an adult. You don’t have to agree with someone’s position to recognize their virtues.

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