Let’s see.1. End NAFTA2. End tax breaks for companies who send our jobs overseas,3. Deport ALL illegals – It is not racist, no matter what liberals and democrats say.4. End all H1b visas and send them home. – There are plenty of Americans out of work with the same skills.5. Tax heavily any company that does not have 75% of their employees be American citizens.6. 75% pay cut for elected officials.
Please feel free to move to a country that doesn’t have some form of controls on healthcare, like Iran or Liberia or Haiti. These countries stand for the same things conservatives here in this country believe.
Seriously,How much money does Greece, Spain and Italy think the Germans have? I know it is not enough, it never is.
Some win the lottery and still go broke. Some will never be rich. Wealth does not come from spending, it is created, it is made; Like the commercial says, “We make our money the old fashion way, we EARN it.”
Like Paul says(Thessalonians2 3:14): “Don’t work, don’t eat”’ even the poor can work, I know I did.
Because the USA has such a low debt ?Because Germany which has more social programs than Spain must be the pariah feeding off of Spain’s wealth. There is a difference between financial responsibility and economic orientation. To put it into real life perspective if one buys a house in an area to expensive for there means they will go into the red very fast. If somebody buys a bunch of prostitutes and drugs it is still possible for them not to go into debt so long as they moderate to their means.
The lesson is that the way you spend your money will have some impact on debt however the main impact is simply financial restraint to the point where you can self sustain
Stop thinking about Governments, Parties, Policies, Them v Us. Countries are made up of people who work, play; get rich, become poor. We are ALL human, we suffer, we SURVIVE. Some of the most upper class people (in the UK anyway) have very little money and are just as “down to earth” as the poor people.
We’re all conceived and born in the same way. Politics comes and goes. People live if they(we)’re allowed to.
I await your “buts” and “ifs” and general objections.
Zoid: you DO realize everything you are AGAINST, Mitt Romney and the Republicans are FOR, right? Just as a minor example, "W"’s salary was DOUBLED from what Clinton got,($200K went to $400K) and Congressional Republicans have voted for EVERY increase in THEIR pay, even while they froze Civil Service pay! Repeatedly!
Yep, Europe DOES have problems, and we might look to Greenspan’s influence on what CAUSED the problems!
“I’m happy with what we have.” How odd. Every one of the comments I have read from you suggest you are very UNhappy with every that we have, from our laws, to our congress, to our president, to the opinions and values of most of our fellow Americans.
I might note that Spain was doing just fine until we brought on a banking and financial crisis that brought them down. Until then, their debt situation was better than ours. Europe’s woes have been brought on by (1) Adopting a single currency and then rejecting the central banking authority to make it work. (Imagine each of the fifty states being able to print as many US dollars as it likes, without any control from Washington.) And (2) Admitting countries like Greece into the monetary union before they were fiscally prepared for it. It has little to do with each nation’s policies vis-a-vis things like social programs. Italy and Spain provide fewer services to their citizens than France or Germany do, yet France and Germany are both much better off.
What do conservative commentors mean when they use the work “socialism”? According to Merriam-Webster: Definitions of SOCIALISM1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state.3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done. Now I don’t see much similarity between any of these definitions and the state of affairs we see in most of Europe, or in any of the “liberal” policies advocated by Democrats and other who are castigated by the Right. So, what do you folks on the right think “Socialism” means, or is?
Ajax: Yeah, I remember that argument. It was used to preserve Jim Crow back when I was in (an all white) college. Turns out it was previously used to support slavery, and before that feudalism. Good to see even the Reich-wing believes in some recycling. I never knew they had it in them.
“That’s a British helmet and mustache. Was that intentional? They have been very quiet on the whole issue…”
The helmet’s British, but the mustache could be anybody’s (it actually looks more like Toles’s standard German to me). It’s probably just because that’s what the cartoon’s American audience thinks of when they think “WWI helmet”; or at least the only other that would be comparable would be the German helmet, which would more accurately reflect the current situation but would create bad associations (again for American readers).
“They have been very quiet on the whole issue…”You mean you aren’t getting reports of Cameron’s wise counsel on the whole thing? Whew, that’s a relief. I thought he has been sticking in his oar quite a bit.
The ironic thing is that the way to beat trench warfare is with a Blitzkrieg. But shock-treatment economics have been ruled out by election-conscious politicians.
A quick trip to the dictionary…-————————————-socialism |ˈsōSHəˌlizəm|nouna political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.• policy or practice based on this theory.• (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.-—————————-Could someone please explain how the US, with record corporate profits, the DJIA up 50% in the past 3 years, and taxes at the lowest level in generations in any way can be considered “socialist”?
In general, I think people would be more sympathetic to a particular cause if the complaints were tethered in reality and without hyperbole. I’m really tired of hearing about how policy XZY is the end of freedom and liberty. Reagan was saying that about Medicare in the 50s.
You understand neither socialism, Europe nor the danger facing the U.S.First, the largest economic powers in Europe are not and never were like you describe. The government in Germany is run by a coalition of centralist Christian Democrats (that is “democrats”, if you understand the distinction — we are ALL, I hope democrats) and even more business friendly Neo-Liberals. The U.K. has a Conservative Prime Minister and France has just ousted it’s Conservative President and Legislature because they were running the National Debt too high while leaving ordinary people behind. (Sort of like the Bush years.) Second, most European countries, today, have similar or better constitutional rights than the U.S.Europe is not without problems, but the greatest danger is not on the left, but from the potential “New World Order” of Corporate power and a new generation of very organized robber barons, the danger of whom the American “right” and self proclaimed Tea Party seem amazingly oblivious. too. The corporate “center” BTW was responsible for pushing for the introduction of the Euro before political structures were ready for it.
OmqR-IV.0 almost 12 years ago
Excellent.Politicians suffer from trench-mouth.
zoidknight almost 12 years ago
Let’s see.1. End NAFTA2. End tax breaks for companies who send our jobs overseas,3. Deport ALL illegals – It is not racist, no matter what liberals and democrats say.4. End all H1b visas and send them home. – There are plenty of Americans out of work with the same skills.5. Tax heavily any company that does not have 75% of their employees be American citizens.6. 75% pay cut for elected officials.
Yes it can be done and should be done.
tcolkett almost 12 years ago
Please feel free to move to a country that doesn’t have some form of controls on healthcare, like Iran or Liberia or Haiti. These countries stand for the same things conservatives here in this country believe.
donotemailme almost 12 years ago
Seriously,How much money does Greece, Spain and Italy think the Germans have? I know it is not enough, it never is.
Some win the lottery and still go broke. Some will never be rich. Wealth does not come from spending, it is created, it is made; Like the commercial says, “We make our money the old fashion way, we EARN it.”
Like Paul says(Thessalonians2 3:14): “Don’t work, don’t eat”’ even the poor can work, I know I did.
Quipss almost 12 years ago
Because the USA has such a low debt ?Because Germany which has more social programs than Spain must be the pariah feeding off of Spain’s wealth. There is a difference between financial responsibility and economic orientation. To put it into real life perspective if one buys a house in an area to expensive for there means they will go into the red very fast. If somebody buys a bunch of prostitutes and drugs it is still possible for them not to go into debt so long as they moderate to their means.
The lesson is that the way you spend your money will have some impact on debt however the main impact is simply financial restraint to the point where you can self sustain
pcolli almost 12 years ago
Stop thinking about Governments, Parties, Policies, Them v Us. Countries are made up of people who work, play; get rich, become poor. We are ALL human, we suffer, we SURVIVE. Some of the most upper class people (in the UK anyway) have very little money and are just as “down to earth” as the poor people.
We’re all conceived and born in the same way. Politics comes and goes. People live if they(we)’re allowed to.
I await your “buts” and “ifs” and general objections.
Dtroutma almost 12 years ago
Zoid: you DO realize everything you are AGAINST, Mitt Romney and the Republicans are FOR, right? Just as a minor example, "W"’s salary was DOUBLED from what Clinton got,($200K went to $400K) and Congressional Republicans have voted for EVERY increase in THEIR pay, even while they froze Civil Service pay! Repeatedly!
Yep, Europe DOES have problems, and we might look to Greenspan’s influence on what CAUSED the problems!
Doughfoot almost 12 years ago
“I’m happy with what we have.” How odd. Every one of the comments I have read from you suggest you are very UNhappy with every that we have, from our laws, to our congress, to our president, to the opinions and values of most of our fellow Americans.
Doughfoot almost 12 years ago
I might note that Spain was doing just fine until we brought on a banking and financial crisis that brought them down. Until then, their debt situation was better than ours. Europe’s woes have been brought on by (1) Adopting a single currency and then rejecting the central banking authority to make it work. (Imagine each of the fifty states being able to print as many US dollars as it likes, without any control from Washington.) And (2) Admitting countries like Greece into the monetary union before they were fiscally prepared for it. It has little to do with each nation’s policies vis-a-vis things like social programs. Italy and Spain provide fewer services to their citizens than France or Germany do, yet France and Germany are both much better off.
Doughfoot almost 12 years ago
What do conservative commentors mean when they use the work “socialism”? According to Merriam-Webster: Definitions of SOCIALISM1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state.3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done. Now I don’t see much similarity between any of these definitions and the state of affairs we see in most of Europe, or in any of the “liberal” policies advocated by Democrats and other who are castigated by the Right. So, what do you folks on the right think “Socialism” means, or is?
hippogriff almost 12 years ago
Ajax: Yeah, I remember that argument. It was used to preserve Jim Crow back when I was in (an all white) college. Turns out it was previously used to support slavery, and before that feudalism. Good to see even the Reich-wing believes in some recycling. I never knew they had it in them.
fritzoid Premium Member almost 12 years ago
“That’s a British helmet and mustache. Was that intentional? They have been very quiet on the whole issue…”
The helmet’s British, but the mustache could be anybody’s (it actually looks more like Toles’s standard German to me). It’s probably just because that’s what the cartoon’s American audience thinks of when they think “WWI helmet”; or at least the only other that would be comparable would be the German helmet, which would more accurately reflect the current situation but would create bad associations (again for American readers).
OmqR-IV.0 almost 12 years ago
“They have been very quiet on the whole issue…”You mean you aren’t getting reports of Cameron’s wise counsel on the whole thing? Whew, that’s a relief. I thought he has been sticking in his oar quite a bit.
TELawrence almost 12 years ago
The ironic thing is that the way to beat trench warfare is with a Blitzkrieg. But shock-treatment economics have been ruled out by election-conscious politicians.
Duff Dude Premium Member almost 12 years ago
A quick trip to the dictionary…-————————————-socialism |ˈsōSHəˌlizəm|nouna political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.• policy or practice based on this theory.• (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.-—————————-Could someone please explain how the US, with record corporate profits, the DJIA up 50% in the past 3 years, and taxes at the lowest level in generations in any way can be considered “socialist”?
In general, I think people would be more sympathetic to a particular cause if the complaints were tethered in reality and without hyperbole. I’m really tired of hearing about how policy XZY is the end of freedom and liberty. Reagan was saying that about Medicare in the 50s.
Yontrop almost 12 years ago
You understand neither socialism, Europe nor the danger facing the U.S.First, the largest economic powers in Europe are not and never were like you describe. The government in Germany is run by a coalition of centralist Christian Democrats (that is “democrats”, if you understand the distinction — we are ALL, I hope democrats) and even more business friendly Neo-Liberals. The U.K. has a Conservative Prime Minister and France has just ousted it’s Conservative President and Legislature because they were running the National Debt too high while leaving ordinary people behind. (Sort of like the Bush years.) Second, most European countries, today, have similar or better constitutional rights than the U.S.Europe is not without problems, but the greatest danger is not on the left, but from the potential “New World Order” of Corporate power and a new generation of very organized robber barons, the danger of whom the American “right” and self proclaimed Tea Party seem amazingly oblivious. too. The corporate “center” BTW was responsible for pushing for the introduction of the Euro before political structures were ready for it.