My first paying job was for an hourly wage of $0.82 + tips. The job was waitress, short order cook, soda jerk, dishwasher and closing clean up. Hmmm??? I never thought I was paid enough. But when I worked for family, it was for tips only, Figuring for inflation, there hasn’t been much improvement in wages, except for CRO and management.
What I will NEVER understand is WHY the US is STILL enforcing federal wages for servers and just give them minimum wages and allow them to take tips and just declare a portion of them. Servers only make $2.18 an hour and that’s INSANE.
Maybe if they did not go for that degree in South Pacific Women’s Studies they could have gotten a better job. And our paying off their loans is not the solution to their bad decision.
Most people in low level jobs work their way up to better jobs. So their plight is likely a short term issue.
There are only so many high level jobs, many moving to AI soon. Lots of lower level jobs being filled by immigrants who are really boosting the economy and holding off a recession. Upper 1% control 43% of wealth and spend millions trying to avoid paying taxes to the country that gave them the opportunity to be wealthy (likely along with a starter trust fund). There is a solution here, anyone see it?
Rationalizing it however you might, but the desire by some on the right to have things done sans cost sounds like free loading. Or might it be slavery?
Evidently, some are not familiar with the fact that the minimum wage does not cover wait jobs. The second statement is just a poor excuse for properly paying waiters for their work.
Any restaurant that has its men dressed in suit with black bowtie probably has prices that will demand great service, and the tip will be commensurate. If waitresses don’t want complaining diners, they should work in a buffet restaurant.
I am getting tired of subsidizing the low wages employers pay their employees. My tax dollars subsidize the housing, food, and healthcare of underpaid employees, because someone needs a golden parachute.
Makes sense, the owners have a vested interest in maximizing their profits and given they own the government… we get self serve checkouts, self serve gas stations, robots answering telephones… and service staff that depend on handouts from their clients.
Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg didn’t graduate from college but are among the richest people in the world. So does this mean going to college doesn’t matter when it comes to your salary? Both Gates and Zuckerberg are exceptions to the norm. They were both able to get into Harvard and had the knowledge to create their billion-dollar businesses. According to data from the U.S. Census, not only do those with more education make more, but the difference is quite surprising.
The average American with a bachelor’s degree earns about $80,500 per year, while the average American with only a high school diploma earns about $40,000 per year. College graduates earn more than double on average than those without a degree.
Education LevelAverage Income
Less than 9th grade$26,293
9th to 12th grade, no diploma$27,987
High school graduate (includes equivalency)$39,976
I recall a waiter asking me how my steak was. I told him, honestly enough, that it was overdone, I had ordered medium rare. He smiled and said “Great!” and walked off. He did not get a tip.
There is no way of knowing what we have lost with our policy of not giving every person their best opportunity to achieve whatever they can. It is detrimental to the entire human race, not just to the individual. And, it isn’t just that the mind that could have discovered the cure for cancer could have been born in poverty and never learned to read.
The average college graduate pays more in federal taxes very year of their working life than the average high school graduate. If that’s divided by the 4 years it takes to get a college education, and public schools were free, those additional taxes would pay for the cost of college, with a net gain for total income taxes paid. THE REST OF US WOULDN’T HAVE TO PAY MORE TAXES, IN FACT THE NET EFFECT WOULD BE A TAX PLUS. This doesn’t even consider that with the degree, the person is less likely to ever need unemployment or welfare, and that more students would complete high school if they could see it as the way to a good job. They would also be paying a larger amount in all other types of taxes, social security and Medicare.
The best investment we could make to keep America strong is to not just forgive all student loans but to make all public higher education, including trade schools, etc totally free, as long as the student is making decent grades. There is no better way to spend money than, to give our people every opportunity to be the best they can be. Yes, It’s good for them individually, but the country is made up of individual
It looks like the speaker, Shorty Johnson may be moving the bill for aid to Ukraine. If that’s the case, I resolve not to make anymore disparaging remarks about him, for the next 30 days. Maybe Shorty had an epiphany?
This is employers stealing wages. A tip was “to insure promptness” also known, by the wealthy, as away to have their own waiter standing by. What would a cafe look like if no one left a tip? McDonald’s!
Concretionist 28 days ago
And in other states, wait staff has a distinct and smaller minimum wage.
Flashaaway 28 days ago
Name these states, would they be mostly red? I bet wait staff have already been purged from electoral rolls.
braindead Premium Member 28 days ago
Well, why not?
The MCD CEO makes $18 mil or so, right? You gotta focus on what’s important.
knutdl 28 days ago
Extremely medium.
S&C = Dismayed&Depressed 28 days ago
My first paying job was for an hourly wage of $0.82 + tips. The job was waitress, short order cook, soda jerk, dishwasher and closing clean up. Hmmm??? I never thought I was paid enough. But when I worked for family, it was for tips only, Figuring for inflation, there hasn’t been much improvement in wages, except for CRO and management.
FreyjaRN Premium Member 28 days ago
We raised minimum wage without abolishing tipping. We’d all be better off if they decreased the cost of living, and thereby dropping prices.
ibFrank 28 days ago
The top pay of every business should be tied to the bottom pay. It is sad when the cook at a restaurant can’t afford to eat what he cooks.
loonygardener 28 days ago
What I will NEVER understand is WHY the US is STILL enforcing federal wages for servers and just give them minimum wages and allow them to take tips and just declare a portion of them. Servers only make $2.18 an hour and that’s INSANE.
aristoclesplato9 27 days ago
Maybe if they did not go for that degree in South Pacific Women’s Studies they could have gotten a better job. And our paying off their loans is not the solution to their bad decision.
Most people in low level jobs work their way up to better jobs. So their plight is likely a short term issue.
scote1379 Premium Member 27 days ago
Ah yes the Diners from He££ makes Min+tips all worth while !
tpcox928 27 days ago
There are only so many high level jobs, many moving to AI soon. Lots of lower level jobs being filled by immigrants who are really boosting the economy and holding off a recession. Upper 1% control 43% of wealth and spend millions trying to avoid paying taxes to the country that gave them the opportunity to be wealthy (likely along with a starter trust fund). There is a solution here, anyone see it?
The Lone Panda & Tonto 27 days ago
When you go out to eat, remember this;
“Don’t abuse the people, who handle your food”
or your drinks for that matter.
Havel 27 days ago
Rationalizing it however you might, but the desire by some on the right to have things done sans cost sounds like free loading. Or might it be slavery?
Valiant1943 Premium Member 27 days ago
Evidently, some are not familiar with the fact that the minimum wage does not cover wait jobs. The second statement is just a poor excuse for properly paying waiters for their work.
Moore 1 27 days ago
Before judging staff, one should work on dealing with the public. Then you will see the dark side of people.
preacherman 27 days ago
Any restaurant that has its men dressed in suit with black bowtie probably has prices that will demand great service, and the tip will be commensurate. If waitresses don’t want complaining diners, they should work in a buffet restaurant.
piper_gilbert 27 days ago
I am getting tired of subsidizing the low wages employers pay their employees. My tax dollars subsidize the housing, food, and healthcare of underpaid employees, because someone needs a golden parachute.
Alberta Oil Premium Member 27 days ago
Makes sense, the owners have a vested interest in maximizing their profits and given they own the government… we get self serve checkouts, self serve gas stations, robots answering telephones… and service staff that depend on handouts from their clients.
superposition 27 days ago
From the Ascent, a Motley Fool Sevice:
“…
Do you need to go to college to make more money?
Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg didn’t graduate from college but are among the richest people in the world. So does this mean going to college doesn’t matter when it comes to your salary? Both Gates and Zuckerberg are exceptions to the norm. They were both able to get into Harvard and had the knowledge to create their billion-dollar businesses. According to data from the U.S. Census, not only do those with more education make more, but the difference is quite surprising.
The average American with a bachelor’s degree earns about $80,500 per year, while the average American with only a high school diploma earns about $40,000 per year. College graduates earn more than double on average than those without a degree.
Education LevelAverage Income
Less than 9th grade$26,293
9th to 12th grade, no diploma$27,987
High school graduate (includes equivalency)$39,976
Some college, no degree$48,555
Associate’s degree$51,161
Bachelor’s degree$80,478
Bachelor’s degree or more$91,892
Master’s degree$98,268
Professional degree$151,348
Doctoral degree$141,178 …" — fool .com /the-ascent /personal-finance /articles /heres-the-average-americans-income-by-education-level
rossevrymn 27 days ago
I had a nice martini on Wednesday.
ShadowMaster 27 days ago
I recall a waiter asking me how my steak was. I told him, honestly enough, that it was overdone, I had ordered medium rare. He smiled and said “Great!” and walked off. He did not get a tip.
Diane Lee Premium Member 27 days ago
The average college graduate pays more in federal taxes very year of their working life than the average high school graduate. If that’s divided by the 4 years it takes to get a college education, and public schools were free, those additional taxes would pay for the cost of college, with a net gain for total income taxes paid. THE REST OF US WOULDN’T HAVE TO PAY MORE TAXES, IN FACT THE NET EFFECT WOULD BE A TAX PLUS. This doesn’t even consider that with the degree, the person is less likely to ever need unemployment or welfare, and that more students would complete high school if they could see it as the way to a good job. They would also be paying a larger amount in all other types of taxes, social security and Medicare.
The best investment we could make to keep America strong is to not just forgive all student loans but to make all public higher education, including trade schools, etc totally free, as long as the student is making decent grades. There is no better way to spend money than, to give our people every opportunity to be the best they can be. Yes, It’s good for them individually, but the country is made up of individual
moondog42 Premium Member 27 days ago
Today is April 20 but the comic says April 13….?
The Lone Panda & Tonto 27 days ago
It looks like the speaker, Shorty Johnson may be moving the bill for aid to Ukraine. If that’s the case, I resolve not to make anymore disparaging remarks about him, for the next 30 days. Maybe Shorty had an epiphany?
longgun 27 days ago
This is employers stealing wages. A tip was “to insure promptness” also known, by the wealthy, as away to have their own waiter standing by. What would a cafe look like if no one left a tip? McDonald’s!
Direwolf 25 days ago
And it I don’t tip, I’M the BAD guy!.