Probably should change it from GOP to DOM.
Hey, since BC didn’t quit, why should he (or Ensign)?
Acer quasi orbis. (the Latin word I wanted to use got Polonium 210’d)
Cheers!
But none of them have resigned. There’ s no doubt that Bill Clinton has been sleazy, but he wasn’t self-righteously demanding others step down. And some of these jerks have had the temerity to talk about God’s forgiveness, as in “God forgave me, shouldn’t you?” – even Newt, who was having an affair WHILE calling for Clinton to step down for his peccadillos. And he’s a presidential candidate? If they truly have the courage of their beliefs they can demonstrate it simply by stepping down themselves. Saying “everyone else does it” simply demonstrates the falsehood of their beliefs.
This is a time where I prefer the Catholic approach of faith AND good works – you don’t get forgiven until you make it right through penance.
That’s the galling part of this whole situation. The Repubs ‘tude that they’re so superior to the “plebs”.
Any wonder why only 22% of the populace will admit to being republican? They need to take a few courses in sustainability.
Cheers!
Sanford must kicking himself from here to downtown Peoria for not giving it a few days before announcing his affair. ( After Michael Jackson’s passing )
The call for resignation isn’t for the affair, the judgement in question is leaving the post of governor without letting anyone know where he was. In the case of the SC governor, he is the ONLY person to call for the Coast Guard in an emergency. If something happened in that state during the week he was gone, that state would have been screwed. I am sure someone would have been able to do something but the time it would take would cripple the response. The affair is a lack of personal judgement and moral. However, the affair is directly connected to his willingness of disappearance and leave of his responsibility of a public figure.
I was one of those who felt attempting to impeach Clinton for infidelity was uncalled for. Did it make him immoral for the hurt he caused his wife? Yes. Do I need my leader to uphold the strictest moral standards? No, not really. I just want him to make good decisions on policy, even if he can’t always make them in his private life. Shall we decry those who cheat? As much as you’d like. Should we fire them from their jobs? Probably not.
The Democrats had their wilderness years as well. The main difference is that no one was short-sighted enough to celebrate “the end of the Democratic party”.
Let’s face it…politicians are still human beings. They are going to screw up, just count on it. On occasion, they may get caught too. They don’t need a D, an I, or an R beside their name to screw up.
The funny thing to me is that some Democrats are lecturing and judging Republicans by a standard they themselves are not willing to live up to themselves. Talk about hypocrisy.
Seems to me there are more Republicans than Democrats who “screw around” in public and then waggle their fingers in a “tsk, tsk” fashion at the other party for doing the same thing.
dshepard, actually I just heard a Republican Congressman (sorry, can’t remember who) on the radio yesterday talk about how some Republicans DID erroneously proclaim the death of the Democrats in those wilderness years. His point was that they were wrong back then, and anyone who proclaims the death of the Republican Party is also wrong.
However, I do see a difference. I don’t see any lecturing or judging by Democrats. At least not on their private behavior. It’s more the public moralizing by so many of those who then get caught – that’s what has gotten the attention.
Karl Rove did his best to attain that “permanent” majority but the facts of life being the Iraq debacle and economic mess, the American people finally saw the light and put Obama in as president. Rove used every dirty trick and wedge issue in the book to acheive his goal. People forgot to be afraid of gays when their houses were being foreclosed and their jobs were lost.
tomcib almost 15 years ago
Probably should change it from GOP to DOM. Hey, since BC didn’t quit, why should he (or Ensign)? Acer quasi orbis. (the Latin word I wanted to use got Polonium 210’d) Cheers!
tomcib almost 15 years ago
Senorbullwinkle: No doubt. Its the old “do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do”. S.S.D.D. Cheers!
Motivemagus almost 15 years ago
But none of them have resigned. There’ s no doubt that Bill Clinton has been sleazy, but he wasn’t self-righteously demanding others step down. And some of these jerks have had the temerity to talk about God’s forgiveness, as in “God forgave me, shouldn’t you?” – even Newt, who was having an affair WHILE calling for Clinton to step down for his peccadillos. And he’s a presidential candidate? If they truly have the courage of their beliefs they can demonstrate it simply by stepping down themselves. Saying “everyone else does it” simply demonstrates the falsehood of their beliefs. This is a time where I prefer the Catholic approach of faith AND good works – you don’t get forgiven until you make it right through penance.
tomcib almost 15 years ago
That’s the galling part of this whole situation. The Repubs ‘tude that they’re so superior to the “plebs”. Any wonder why only 22% of the populace will admit to being republican? They need to take a few courses in sustainability. Cheers!
Simon_Jester almost 15 years ago
Sanford must kicking himself from here to downtown Peoria for not giving it a few days before announcing his affair. ( After Michael Jackson’s passing )
dwyant almost 15 years ago
Why concern yourselves - it sure didn’t hurt Clinton!
Simon_Jester almost 15 years ago
That’s because Clinton wasn’t preaching Family Values.
dmarkowski almost 15 years ago
The call for resignation isn’t for the affair, the judgement in question is leaving the post of governor without letting anyone know where he was. In the case of the SC governor, he is the ONLY person to call for the Coast Guard in an emergency. If something happened in that state during the week he was gone, that state would have been screwed. I am sure someone would have been able to do something but the time it would take would cripple the response. The affair is a lack of personal judgement and moral. However, the affair is directly connected to his willingness of disappearance and leave of his responsibility of a public figure.
TrickyPickle almost 15 years ago
I was one of those who felt attempting to impeach Clinton for infidelity was uncalled for. Did it make him immoral for the hurt he caused his wife? Yes. Do I need my leader to uphold the strictest moral standards? No, not really. I just want him to make good decisions on policy, even if he can’t always make them in his private life. Shall we decry those who cheat? As much as you’d like. Should we fire them from their jobs? Probably not.
dshepard almost 15 years ago
The Democrats had their wilderness years as well. The main difference is that no one was short-sighted enough to celebrate “the end of the Democratic party”.
Let’s face it…politicians are still human beings. They are going to screw up, just count on it. On occasion, they may get caught too. They don’t need a D, an I, or an R beside their name to screw up.
The funny thing to me is that some Democrats are lecturing and judging Republicans by a standard they themselves are not willing to live up to themselves. Talk about hypocrisy.
rekam Premium Member almost 15 years ago
Seems to me there are more Republicans than Democrats who “screw around” in public and then waggle their fingers in a “tsk, tsk” fashion at the other party for doing the same thing.
Dtroutma almost 15 years ago
I’d rather have a guy unzipping his fly, than have medics zipping up body bags.
cdward almost 15 years ago
dshepard, actually I just heard a Republican Congressman (sorry, can’t remember who) on the radio yesterday talk about how some Republicans DID erroneously proclaim the death of the Democrats in those wilderness years. His point was that they were wrong back then, and anyone who proclaims the death of the Republican Party is also wrong.
However, I do see a difference. I don’t see any lecturing or judging by Democrats. At least not on their private behavior. It’s more the public moralizing by so many of those who then get caught – that’s what has gotten the attention.
deadheadzan almost 15 years ago
Karl Rove did his best to attain that “permanent” majority but the facts of life being the Iraq debacle and economic mess, the American people finally saw the light and put Obama in as president. Rove used every dirty trick and wedge issue in the book to acheive his goal. People forgot to be afraid of gays when their houses were being foreclosed and their jobs were lost.