Jeff Stahler for June 05, 2018

I can’t even fathom just how much whining would take place if an atheist baker refused to bake a cake for a Christian function. The entire right wing propaganda machine would be in an uproar, and at least one right wing talking head would make comments coming as close as they’re legally allowed to suggesting someone murder the baker.

We non-christians are at a disadvantage because we would never be so stupid as to alienate any customer. I know real followers of Jesus teachings who of course never have any problem accommodating the LGBTQ community because they are actually Christ-like, whose faith isn’t fragile and ephemeral and based on what others think of them and their belief system. Those Christ-like people earn their respect and spread Jesus teachings by example. Christians could learn something from those who follow Jesus teachings.

They can have my business!

That there is my sincerely held religious belief

It would be interesting if some owner implemented this. Hate Radio would implode.

It’s worth starting a bakery, just to be able to do that !!

my bakery would have a sign proclaiming “all are welcome”.

Hard to believe this ever became an issue at all, and even more disturbing is that our Supreme Court has endorsed it.

My religion says I can hate whomever I want!! Jesus said so!

Nice tit for tat.

If I had a bakery, that sign would go up THIS MORNING!!

You may select one of the year old fruitcakes.

Hmmmm. There was a computer repair shop in New Hampshire that did just this.

http://nh1.com/news/new-hampshire/this-nh-business-won-t-serve-republicans

Within a few weeks they reversed their stance.

Here’s one from NYC:

https://nypost.com/2018/04/25/judge-bars-are-allowed-to-throw-out-trump-supporters/

And how is doing this any different than what you are so offended over?

The baker did not refuse them sevice based on their sexual orientation. He refused to make a wedding cake specifically designed to indicate that the wedding was same-sex. If they had ordered a simple cake that said “Congratulations Larry and Harry” with no reference to a same-sex wedding and he turned them down saying, “You’re gay and we don’t serve your kind here.” It would be a different story.

What would you do if someone asked you to design a cake for a KKK rally depicting a lynching and using racial slurs all over it? Would you make the cake for them? Would you sell them a dozen doughnuts.

I actively support my local LGBT community. I think that people who discriminate against them are either ignorant, small-minded or just plain mean. However, I have to go with the court on this one.

The ruling was that the baker was treated with “hostility” towards his religious beliefs. That would mean that if the situation comes up again and the baker refuses service for a wedding cake for same-sex marriage again, then the lawsuit process can begin again. I think someone should test this and go to that baker for the cake, and when the case goes to court get lawyers that won’t screw it up.

Having a political opinion is NOT a protected class so this can be done legally. Personally I don’t recommend it because I think “the left” and moderates need to start treating the hatred from the evangelicals, Trump and the Trumpettes with excessive kindness.

No baker should be forced to bake a politically themed cake if it is opposition to his values. Said baker should not be allowed to refuse the customer service (if said customer is ordering an ordinary cake) based on the customer’s political beliefs.

Everyone is overlooking this one particular point in this argument. Would you actually eat something that was fixed by a baker who doesn’t like you?? Just think how he could sabotage your cake? Gross things can end up baked into a cake and you wouldn’t know it. So would you really want to take that chance?? I’ve seen Cooks who get upset when something is returned to the kitchen …drop ashes cigarette ashes in the food or…. spit in the food. As long as they don’t get caught they continue to do it. Trust me when I say this: YOU DO NOT WANT TO EAT SOMETHING FIXED BY SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT LIKE YOU!!!!

I can guarantee you that I won’t be buying so much as a donut from that place. But then, I don’t live anywhere near Lakewood, Colorado.

Technically legal

Why is it that the verse in Leviticus that bans homosexuality is iron clad, carved in stone and the immovable Word-of-God that all true Christians must OBEY while the verses banning tattoos and pork can be ignored? If you say you MUST follow one of the rules don’t you have to follow them all? It’s in the same book.