The “gun nuts” really are just that: NUTS. Honestly, it’s sad. I’ve seen so much mental instability in my own family and from among my friends. It eats lives.
So, I’m watching “PBS Newshour” last night. They have on two young college students who were at CPAC. They’re basically spewing the NRA line verbatim. I’m basically tuning out. Then the young woman says something that blows me away. She says there must be something wrong with teachers who don’t want to carry a gun. Where do they find these people?!?!?!?!
Maintaining the status quo is not an acceptable solution. Most people would be happy with a compromise that allowed responsible people to own non military grade weapons, but keep them out of the hands of people who intend to hurt themselves or others. This leads us to the basic problem we currently have of the inability of our incompetent, self-centered congress members to make the compromises that other organizations make every day.
“Many in legacy media love mass shootings… You love the ratings. Crying white mothers are ratings gold.”— NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch.
“[The media and political elite] hate the NRA… Their goal is to eliminate the Second Amendment and our firearms freedoms, so they can eradicate all individual freedoms.”— NRA head Wayne LaPierre
“[NRA lobbyist Chris Cox] and the folks who work so hard at the NRA are Great People and Great American Patriots. They love our Country and will do the right thing.”— Trump
Thinking about some of the teachers I’ve had, it would be REALLY scary to think of them being armed. This is not to denigrate teachers at all, I’m just worried about the types that would volunteer for it.
Ultimately, the assault rifles must be banned. We can’t have teachers (or even security guards) walking around with assault rifles, which is what it would take to defend against these murderers with assault rifles. At Columbine, there was a security guard who exchanged fire with one of the gunmen. He was no match for the assault rifles being used. The most recent mass shooting in Florida also had an armed guard at the school who didn’t even enter the building, knowing his pistol was not enough. At fort hood, there were many men with weapons who were unable to stop the slaughter. More guns will NOT help. Metal detectors and other things may help as well.
Nikolas Cruz had a full Kevlar body suit and a helmet on and was carrying assault weapons and trump thinks pistol wielding teachers could have stopped him. Good grief.
Feb 15, 2018 – NRA, Russia and Trump: How ‘dark money’ is poisoning American democracy. The FBI is investigating the National Rifle Association to determine whether Russians illegally funneled money through the organization to help the Trump campaign.
Yeah, but just think of the economic benefits, doughnut shops all over the country will realize a surge in business. This all part of Trump’s master plan to make America great again. 8^)
When I was in high school, it was well known that a few of the teachers (and one vice-principal) were alcoholics. I would not have trusted THEM with a pointed stick!
Rand Corp studied NYPD cops training from 1998-2006 and found they hit targets 18% of the time. When a suspect didn’t return fire they hit targets 30% of the time. So, military training or not, do we really think teachers are going to be sharp shooters?
As part of a research study looking at arming civilians, they had 77 civilians go thought the same type of firearms training simulators that police use. From the study:
“They found that, perhaps unsurprisingly, people without firearms training performed poorly in the scenarios. They didn’t take cover. They didn’t attempt to issue commands to their assailants. Their trigger fingers were either too itchy — they shot innocent bystanders or unarmed people, or not itchy enough — they didn’t shoot armed assailants until they were already being shot at.”
I can’t decide what has me more incensed: Congressional representatives entertaining this notion as potential national policy … or the otherwise responsible, mainstream news media giving it column inches and air time as if it were actually a legitimate idea worthy of debate.
That one punk-ass lobbying organization is allowed to lead civic discussion about the gun-fueled madness, murder and mayhem it inspires and facilitates across the United States speaks volumes about the extent to which America has failed as a nation and society.
UNC political scientist Andrew Reynolds speaks wisely when he suggests we no longer live in a functioning democracy. I would take it a step further and declare we now live in a failed state, period.
Liverlips McCracken Premium Member about 6 years ago
The “gun nuts” really are just that: NUTS. Honestly, it’s sad. I’ve seen so much mental instability in my own family and from among my friends. It eats lives.
Masterskrain Premium Member about 6 years ago
“Drumpfland, Drumpfland, über alles…”
WaitingMan about 6 years ago
So, I’m watching “PBS Newshour” last night. They have on two young college students who were at CPAC. They’re basically spewing the NRA line verbatim. I’m basically tuning out. Then the young woman says something that blows me away. She says there must be something wrong with teachers who don’t want to carry a gun. Where do they find these people?!?!?!?!
Ontman about 6 years ago
NRArse wipes. What an incredibly vile excuse for human beings.
Radish the wordsmith about 6 years ago
The job of a teacher today
When psychos make students their prey
If she sees a brute
She’s well-armed to shoot
But will she receive combat pay?
superposition about 6 years ago
Maintaining the status quo is not an acceptable solution. Most people would be happy with a compromise that allowed responsible people to own non military grade weapons, but keep them out of the hands of people who intend to hurt themselves or others. This leads us to the basic problem we currently have of the inability of our incompetent, self-centered congress members to make the compromises that other organizations make every day.
Radish the wordsmith about 6 years ago
Parkland Survivor After Talking to Trump: “I’ve never been so unimpressed by a person in my life.”
The GOP is looking at an extinction level event. Brought on by #GunControlNow and massacre survivors
The National Education Association ‘overwhelmingly reject’ calls to arm school staff
Kids are freezing in a third of Baltimore schools and gun nuts want to bulletproof classrooms
NeedaChuckle Premium Member about 6 years ago
The good guys with guns in FL were out gunned and stayed hidden. They got fired, better than DEAD!!
Tempest about 6 years ago
And to think….
“Many in legacy media love mass shootings… You love the ratings. Crying white mothers are ratings gold.”— NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch.
“[The media and political elite] hate the NRA… Their goal is to eliminate the Second Amendment and our firearms freedoms, so they can eradicate all individual freedoms.”— NRA head Wayne LaPierre
“[NRA lobbyist Chris Cox] and the folks who work so hard at the NRA are Great People and Great American Patriots. They love our Country and will do the right thing.”— Trump
lonecat about 6 years ago
This insane idea of arming teachers is a distraction. It’s meant to keep us from talking about the real problems and the real solutions.
Odon Premium Member about 6 years ago
Ivanka is introducing a new line of Kevlar clothing aimed at discriminating teachers.
Striped Cat about 6 years ago
“…teacher there are things that I don’t want to learn…”
retpost about 6 years ago
Any school that can AFFORD combat pay can find teachers that will arm themselves.
Nantucket Premium Member about 6 years ago
Thinking about some of the teachers I’ve had, it would be REALLY scary to think of them being armed. This is not to denigrate teachers at all, I’m just worried about the types that would volunteer for it.
montessoriteacher about 6 years ago
Ultimately, the assault rifles must be banned. We can’t have teachers (or even security guards) walking around with assault rifles, which is what it would take to defend against these murderers with assault rifles. At Columbine, there was a security guard who exchanged fire with one of the gunmen. He was no match for the assault rifles being used. The most recent mass shooting in Florida also had an armed guard at the school who didn’t even enter the building, knowing his pistol was not enough. At fort hood, there were many men with weapons who were unable to stop the slaughter. More guns will NOT help. Metal detectors and other things may help as well.
montessoriteacher about 6 years ago
Nikolas Cruz had a full Kevlar body suit and a helmet on and was carrying assault weapons and trump thinks pistol wielding teachers could have stopped him. Good grief.
Radish the wordsmith about 6 years ago
NRA, Russia and Trump: Money laundering poisoning US democracy …
https://www.cnbc.com/…/nra-russia-and-trump-money-laundering-poisoning-us-demo…
Feb 15, 2018 – NRA, Russia and Trump: How ‘dark money’ is poisoning American democracy. The FBI is investigating the National Rifle Association to determine whether Russians illegally funneled money through the organization to help the Trump campaign.
Walrus Gumbo Premium Member about 6 years ago
School: Where adults refuse to learn! NRA = No Reason Allowed
William Bednar Premium Member about 6 years ago
Yeah, but just think of the economic benefits, doughnut shops all over the country will realize a surge in business. This all part of Trump’s master plan to make America great again. 8^)
Radish the wordsmith about 6 years ago
Greedy Trump tax plan took away the policeman’s uniform deduction.
Less money for donuts.
Godfreydaniel about 6 years ago
When I was in high school, it was well known that a few of the teachers (and one vice-principal) were alcoholics. I would not have trusted THEM with a pointed stick!
RAGs about 6 years ago
Good teachers CARE about their students. It would be difficult for one of them to shoot one, even in a dire situation.
montessoriteacher about 6 years ago
Adolescents are leading the way in the gun control movement, which seems appropriate since our leader is an adolescent.
montessoriteacher about 6 years ago
Rand Corp studied NYPD cops training from 1998-2006 and found they hit targets 18% of the time. When a suspect didn’t return fire they hit targets 30% of the time. So, military training or not, do we really think teachers are going to be sharp shooters?
Majorbabs Premium Member about 6 years ago
As part of a research study looking at arming civilians, they had 77 civilians go thought the same type of firearms training simulators that police use. From the study:
“They found that, perhaps unsurprisingly, people without firearms training performed poorly in the scenarios. They didn’t take cover. They didn’t attempt to issue commands to their assailants. Their trigger fingers were either too itchy — they shot innocent bystanders or unarmed people, or not itchy enough — they didn’t shoot armed assailants until they were already being shot at.”
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/08/02/spoiler-alert-people-with-no-firearms-training-get-killed-in-selfdefense-simulator-n2031884
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/07/28/watch-what-happens-when-regular-people-try-to-use-handguns-in-self-defense/?utm_term=.2405df3026ae
Kip W about 6 years ago
“Spare the rod and spoil the child.”
Radish the wordsmith about 6 years ago
Use the rod to clean the gun.
Andrew Sleeth about 6 years ago
I can’t decide what has me more incensed: Congressional representatives entertaining this notion as potential national policy … or the otherwise responsible, mainstream news media giving it column inches and air time as if it were actually a legitimate idea worthy of debate.
That one punk-ass lobbying organization is allowed to lead civic discussion about the gun-fueled madness, murder and mayhem it inspires and facilitates across the United States speaks volumes about the extent to which America has failed as a nation and society.
UNC political scientist Andrew Reynolds speaks wisely when he suggests we no longer live in a functioning democracy. I would take it a step further and declare we now live in a failed state, period.
Congratulations, Putin. Mission accomplished.
Cerabooge about 6 years ago
Oh, look, it’s a meeting of the JROTC.
Majorbabs Premium Member about 6 years ago
From the file of “What Can Go Wrong If We Put More Guns Into Schools” file:
From KSTP: Third-Grader Reaches into Maplewood Officer’s Holster, Fires Weapon in School Gym
http://kstp.com/news/no-one-hurt-when-third-grader-reaches-into-school-liaison-officer-holster-fires-gun-harmony-learning-center-maplewood/4773777/