How is having half the country sick without care gonna make America Great!!?? Also when the plague comes to the inner city one day and is untreated, will you all go to the Masque of the Red Death???
Are there no conservatives left in Congress? Speaking conservatively (small c), it is more logical to have as an asset a healthy, well educated population to draw from when you need to accomplish things.
Every established religion advocates caring for each other and we live in a society that respects all religions. It is only the non-conservative radicals who still are stuck in a self-centered, survival of the fittest mentality which ultimately places undue burdens on society.
Even the WALL STREET JOURNAL was in favor of universal healthcare. Why? Because it is cheaper for employers.
Currently employers bear the brunt of insurance costs, and given that we have the highest per capita healthcare costs in the world by a substantial margin — 50% more than #2 — that’s a lot of money. If we had a simple single-payer plan and enabled the government to negotiate drug costs like every other major nation on the planet, prices would plummet, and every single business would benefit except two: the pharmaceutical industry (.68% of full-time American employees, generously calculated) and the healthcare insurance industry (~.42% of full-time American employees). But the economic benefits would be massive, as small businesses would get a lot of relief, and contrary to what some would have you believe, small businesses are what power an economy.
References:
Employees in pharma: http://www.phrma.org/media/economic-impact
Employees in health insurance:https://www.statista.com/statistics/194229/number-of-health-insurance-employees-in-the-us-since-1960/
Full time employees in US:https://www.statista.com/statistics/192361/unadjusted-monthly-number-of-full-time-employees-in-the-us/
It’s really unpleasant to go ballistic from a near-sound sleep, but that’s what happened this morning when I heard a moron on NPR say, in response to a question about the proposed “health care” bill, that market forces will keep pharmaceutical prices low. The level of stupidity or dishonesty is beyond words. There are just some places where market forces don’t apply, and a highly specialized research field like pharmaceutical is one of them because you have to have industry competition and consumer choice for market forces to come into play. That very often simply doesn’t exist. Compare the cost of aspirin with, for instance, chemo drugs.
Costs between one hospital and another are different, according to what insurance deals they have, etc. No doctor or clerk can tell you what something costs beforehand. It has to be billed to insurance and run past accountants, etc. My doctor’s office can never tell me the correct copay for a visit even. Free market forces never have a chance to come into effect. It’s all smoke and mirrors, and the patient is playing a rigged game.
Darsan54 Premium Member almost 7 years ago
Panel #5 (the guy with the hat) is all the media pundits.
Masterskrain Premium Member almost 7 years ago
Panel #1 Ivanka??
Crabbyrino Premium Member almost 7 years ago
Great toon.
Masterskrain Premium Member almost 7 years ago
I’d MUCH RATHER see a ritual human sacrifice OF a few Hedge Fund managers…
NeedaChuckle Premium Member almost 7 years ago
How is having half the country sick without care gonna make America Great!!?? Also when the plague comes to the inner city one day and is untreated, will you all go to the Masque of the Red Death???
kaffekup almost 7 years ago
“Who’s ok with that?”
Umm, every republican?
superposition almost 7 years ago
Are there no conservatives left in Congress? Speaking conservatively (small c), it is more logical to have as an asset a healthy, well educated population to draw from when you need to accomplish things.
Every established religion advocates caring for each other and we live in a society that respects all religions. It is only the non-conservative radicals who still are stuck in a self-centered, survival of the fittest mentality which ultimately places undue burdens on society.
drivingfuriously Premium Member almost 7 years ago
Waaaa, the government is not gonna pay for my hospital bills, waaaa.
Motivemagus almost 7 years ago
Even the WALL STREET JOURNAL was in favor of universal healthcare. Why? Because it is cheaper for employers.
Currently employers bear the brunt of insurance costs, and given that we have the highest per capita healthcare costs in the world by a substantial margin — 50% more than #2 — that’s a lot of money. If we had a simple single-payer plan and enabled the government to negotiate drug costs like every other major nation on the planet, prices would plummet, and every single business would benefit except two: the pharmaceutical industry (.68% of full-time American employees, generously calculated) and the healthcare insurance industry (~.42% of full-time American employees). But the economic benefits would be massive, as small businesses would get a lot of relief, and contrary to what some would have you believe, small businesses are what power an economy.
References:
Employees in pharma: http://www.phrma.org/media/economic-impact
Employees in health insurance:https://www.statista.com/statistics/194229/number-of-health-insurance-employees-in-the-us-since-1960/
Full time employees in US:https://www.statista.com/statistics/192361/unadjusted-monthly-number-of-full-time-employees-in-the-us/
Striped Cat almost 7 years ago
Don’t care who has to die, just so long as that thing named after the Kenyan Muslim is dismantlement.
braindead Premium Member almost 7 years ago
As we know, health care is not some right enshrined in the Constitution or Declaration of Independence or anywhere else.
It is a privilege afforded only to those who can pay for it.
That’s the bedrock principle of the Republican health care approach.
None of the so-called ‘conservatives’ will attempt to praise the Republicans’ health care plan because they don’t want to say such things out loud.
mr_sherman Premium Member almost 7 years ago
I would guess that the comment in the constitution about the “common welfare” doesn’t include being a healthy citizen.
Mr. Blawt almost 7 years ago
Things may be chaotic at first, but we can vote in legislators who work for Americans, right?
kaffekup almost 7 years ago
Sure, who needs healthy, educated employees, right? Not the republicans.
dogday Premium Member almost 7 years ago
It’s really unpleasant to go ballistic from a near-sound sleep, but that’s what happened this morning when I heard a moron on NPR say, in response to a question about the proposed “health care” bill, that market forces will keep pharmaceutical prices low. The level of stupidity or dishonesty is beyond words. There are just some places where market forces don’t apply, and a highly specialized research field like pharmaceutical is one of them because you have to have industry competition and consumer choice for market forces to come into play. That very often simply doesn’t exist. Compare the cost of aspirin with, for instance, chemo drugs.
mr_sherman Premium Member almost 7 years ago
How about comparing the cost of aspirin to EpiPens?
grainpaw almost 7 years ago
Costs between one hospital and another are different, according to what insurance deals they have, etc. No doctor or clerk can tell you what something costs beforehand. It has to be billed to insurance and run past accountants, etc. My doctor’s office can never tell me the correct copay for a visit even. Free market forces never have a chance to come into effect. It’s all smoke and mirrors, and the patient is playing a rigged game.