Matt Bors for August 31, 2016

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    kurt.zwicky  over 7 years ago

    ^ Another one of these highly reliable sources. Here is a comment about it:“…..One of the most wretched hives of scum and quackery on the Internet’…..

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    Happy Two Shoes  over 7 years ago

    “Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.” ― Aldous Huxley

    “In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell

    “Never be afraid to raise your voice for honesty and truth and compassion against injustice and lying and greed. If people all over the world…would do this, it would change the earth.” ― William Faulkner

    “All you have to do is write one true sentence. Write the truest sentence that you know.” ― Ernest Hemingway

    “Better a cruel truth than a comfortable delusion.” ― Edward Abbey

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    Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo]  over 7 years ago

    Everyone has a bias, but you never mentioned which among them had truth. What is truth to you?-Only fools believe what they want, not interested in truth which is generally bad of taste because nothing is hidden or removed.

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    twclix  over 7 years ago

    Indiscriminate truth-seeking is an oxymoron. Every “news” outlet purports to speak the “truth.” But some are demonstrably better at hewing to the actual FACTS than others. For example, I would trust The New Yorker magazine over the Natural News. This doesn’t mean either is “right” all the time. But I do know that The New Yorker is well curated. They have legions of fact checkers who are legendary in journalism. The Natural News—well I don’t know much about them, but I sort of doubt they put the same emphasis on actual facts as The New Yorker. I am not asserting that much of what Natural News reports is either true or false. I really have no idea, but it’s highly likely they do not bring the same rigor to the fact-checking process. And, as an aside, the Natural News may, in fact, report on issues that others miss, and they may do a very good job of it. Certainly nobody has a claim to know everything and “conventional wisdom” is sometimes very wrong. But so is the “alternative wisdom” often in error.

    More broadly, though, you say you know the “Truth” when you see it, but, of course you don’t. None of us humans can perceive Truth. Our species’ puny biological observation post doesn’t permit that knowledge. Why, we cannot even detect electromagnetic spectral effects across the entire known spectrum—not to mention the potential for perceiving unknown spectral phenomena.

    So, no, however much reading and thinking you do does not make you capable of perceiving the Truth. The best any of us can do is, given the circumstances, try to figure out the “truth” with lower-case “t.” Any claim to the contrary is simply not true. Given the shifting nature of our understanding of the “truth” of things, my view is that only the scientific method has the chance to figure out what we might regard as “truth,” and of course, scientists are flawed in their apprehension of “truth”, too. But at least scientists for the most part challenge each other by interpreting observed facts in an attempt to explain phenomena in accordance with those observed facts. But, unlike the religious, or ideologues who bring “settled thinking” into their contemplations, at least most (probably closer to all) scientists understand in their very bones that “truth” is a journey and not a destination.

    Now lest the absolutists out there bridle at this notion of the all-too-human ambiguous and incomplete perception of truth, I do believe there actually might be“Truths” with a capital “T.” But it seems unlikely we humans can perceive them any more than the ant or the bacteria can perceive the “truths” that seem evident to human consciousness. So what would your truth look like to a more developed consciousness than human? And, conversely, how could we ever apprehend a higher being’s “truth?” And I don’t mean a god-like figure as a higher being—although that’s possible. I simply mean in the enormity of the universe, there very well may be beings of some sort with a far higher consciousness. (For those interested, you should Google the “Fermi Paradox” for one thoughtful approach to this question of “beings that have a more advanced consciousness” than humans.)

    All that being said, at a human scale, sometimes a certain level of “truth” can be generally agreed upon. Most often, of all humans, scientists are better at perceiving these “true” patterns than the rest of us—at least within each scientist’s own field, that is. But real, unchanging Truth, even with a lower-case “t” is impossible to perceive at a human scale. And, then, at the subatomic scale or the macro scale of the known universe, declaring you know the Truth is simply delusional. If you think I’m mistaken, then just study up on what scientists currently think about indeterminacy and quantum theory.

    Everyone’s ability to apprehend Truth is deeply flawed—your claims to the contrary notwithstanding. You say you consider every point of view. But, as with all humans, you bring your own selective consciousness to your observations and conclusions. By definition, if you are cocksure of your “truth” it could very well be closer to Stephen Colbert’s “truthiness” than to the Truth.

    Delusional self-congratulatory comments aside, it is obviously helpful to pay attention to all points of view. But for any human to declare they can sift through everything and know the Truth is just plain not true. Sorry.

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    rightisright  over 7 years ago
    Bors, another dummy owned by Pepe the Frog.
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    Uncle Joe Premium Member over 7 years ago

    “Nobody… or extreme few… believe the findings of the Warren Commission. It’s always the MSM that repeats Oswald did it totally alone.”You can pretty much credit the MSM & Oliver Stone for spreading conspiracy theories as an alternative to the Warren Commission’s findings.

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    twclix  over 7 years ago

    Well, Tom, I have no idea about the JFK assassination. Really, I don’t know what’s fact or fiction. And I actually don’t really care all that much. The bald, naked truth about conspiracies is that they do exist. They are rare, but they do exist. But what you may refer to as a conspiracy is your projection of a narrative of your own construction. This narrative may or may not have clear relevance to the facts, but the facts themselves can be difficult to interpret. Sometimes they are easily interpreted, though, and the obvious is often real.

    The big problem with conspiracy theories is that they require secrecy from multiple people. That’s certainly possible, but the more that know about something, the more someone will talk, especially today. Conspiracy theorists like to believe they have greater insight into the world than others. It makes them feel special and part of a small group of those " in the know." But that’s just an ego trick playing out inside someone’s consciousness.

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    David Huie Green LosersBlameOthers&It'sYOURfault  over 7 years ago

    “Do you feel superior to 2,500 architects and engineers, to firefighters, commercial and military pilots, physicists and chemists, and former high government officials who have raised doubts about 9/11?”.Mainly at the claim these have disputed the event.

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    David Huie Green LosersBlameOthers&It'sYOURfault  over 7 years ago

    (People have claimed the heat of burning kerosene is not high enough to melt the steel when the steel doesn’t have to melt, just weaken enough to fail.)

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    Moxie  over 7 years ago

    So MB throws something out there once every five weeks now?

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    andrew_c  over 7 years ago

    @Tom Hyland The only people full of crap here are “Architects” & “Engineers” for Truth. I trained as an architect and my father was a structural and civil engineer, and I can tell you that very few architects actually understand the structural issues involved in a massive structure like a dam or skyscraper like the World Trade Centre towers. Likewise there is a surprisingly large amount of civil engineers who don’t understand those issues either.

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