…and in 2008 you could have put a donkey in place of the elephant. Neither of the parties have learned a single thing, and a combination of seemingly short-term memory and shiny object voting facilitates this voting one failed party in, getting tired of it, voting the other failed party in, getting tired of it….lather, rinse, repeat.
Someone explain the actual differance between the donkey and the elephant to me. It is like two brothers pointing at the other yelling “He did it, not me!” When does the country come to the realization that we actually do not need either of these self-serving parties. At this point it seems that no federal government would be better than the debaucle we have now.
@sidl - Other than the religious vitriol there really isn’t much of a difference. Both sides will take money from one group of people and give it to another. It’s just a matter of whom is which.
We just have to get out and vote. There are way more Progressives in this country than Regressives (“conservatives”). That was demonstrated in 2008. Unfortunately, the Regressives are scared you-know-what-less as they believe the lies they’re being told by Beck et all, and they’re out in force. I was going to compare them to the cockroaches in my neighborhood, but that’s mean- they’ve drunk the “tea” and we should have compassion..
We need to take the Democratic party back from the bribe-takers in our party and leave the Republican party to continue it’s steady implosion.
@sidl… you’re correct. Except there is at least one difference. The Democrats- those not on the take from the corporations- say, “they did it- now let’s fix it” and the Regressives- almost all on the take- say, “they did it- now let’s not do anything at all. Let it rot”.
Also- who did do it? I guess it depends on what “it” is, right? Clinton, for all his f-ups with NAFTA, still managed to set up a fairly strong economy. Bush dismantled that right off, occupied two countries at the cost of $trillions and got us right to where we are. Now, Obama and the Democrats face this weird “threat of filibuster” thing coming from the party of “Nyet” and we wonder why things are moving so slow.
Democrats - not perfect, not even close.
Republicans - not your friend (unless you’re very wealthy).
That’s the difference.
^The problem with the Dems is that there are a few who think like Republicans (Max Baucus for example and Barbara Boxer for example). We need to replace these conservedems with real progressives.
Lets all decide to vote Tea Party and get term limits initiated. Then the career polititions will have to go home and we won’t need to worry about any politition being in office for forever. Get new blood and get back to normal “For the People, By the People and Of the People” like it should be and used to be.
^ I think somebody listened to someone who said, “A large deficit is good for the economy”. and also said, “Outsourcing jobs allows us to live better for less.”
Tigger, Sweetheart, would you please enlighten us with what bills [passed in 2007] caused the immediate wrecking of the economy (and not, say, things like not regulating derivatives. Less regulation is betterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr *explode*)?
SuperGriz over 13 years ago
Toles is befuddled.
http://tinyurl.com/2u942xv
dshepard over 13 years ago
…and in 2008 you could have put a donkey in place of the elephant. Neither of the parties have learned a single thing, and a combination of seemingly short-term memory and shiny object voting facilitates this voting one failed party in, getting tired of it, voting the other failed party in, getting tired of it….lather, rinse, repeat.
rickbooker over 13 years ago
well most of America certainly learned something after the love fest you loons had with Barack Hussein Obama hmm hmm hmmmm
Jaedabee Premium Member over 13 years ago
“They’ve learned not to allow their enemies to split their vote so the donkey wins.”
Oh.. cause that’s totally not happening in places like Alaska right now.No one has learned anything. You’dve thought Dems would have learned not to be so spineless. But no.
sidl over 13 years ago
Someone explain the actual differance between the donkey and the elephant to me. It is like two brothers pointing at the other yelling “He did it, not me!” When does the country come to the realization that we actually do not need either of these self-serving parties. At this point it seems that no federal government would be better than the debaucle we have now.
WarBush over 13 years ago
^Everyman for himself. Good idea! NOT!
hawkeyec Premium Member over 13 years ago
You got that right; dumb and dumber.
Jaedabee Premium Member over 13 years ago
@sidl - Other than the religious vitriol there really isn’t much of a difference. Both sides will take money from one group of people and give it to another. It’s just a matter of whom is which.
JubjubBird over 13 years ago
We just have to get out and vote. There are way more Progressives in this country than Regressives (“conservatives”). That was demonstrated in 2008. Unfortunately, the Regressives are scared you-know-what-less as they believe the lies they’re being told by Beck et all, and they’re out in force. I was going to compare them to the cockroaches in my neighborhood, but that’s mean- they’ve drunk the “tea” and we should have compassion..
We need to take the Democratic party back from the bribe-takers in our party and leave the Republican party to continue it’s steady implosion.
VOTE 2010!! http://www.transclassical.com/blog
JubjubBird over 13 years ago
@sidl… you’re correct. Except there is at least one difference. The Democrats- those not on the take from the corporations- say, “they did it- now let’s fix it” and the Regressives- almost all on the take- say, “they did it- now let’s not do anything at all. Let it rot”.
Also- who did do it? I guess it depends on what “it” is, right? Clinton, for all his f-ups with NAFTA, still managed to set up a fairly strong economy. Bush dismantled that right off, occupied two countries at the cost of $trillions and got us right to where we are. Now, Obama and the Democrats face this weird “threat of filibuster” thing coming from the party of “Nyet” and we wonder why things are moving so slow.
Democrats - not perfect, not even close. Republicans - not your friend (unless you’re very wealthy). That’s the difference.
WarBush over 13 years ago
^The problem with the Dems is that there are a few who think like Republicans (Max Baucus for example and Barbara Boxer for example). We need to replace these conservedems with real progressives.
Dtroutma over 13 years ago
Toles has quite simply drawn the most accurate picture of the “poll radicalized” (read the buck stops at the ad campaign) state of the nation.
Justice22 over 13 years ago
The two deserve each other. Unfortunately, we who care are stuck in the middle and about to get squashed.
WarBush over 13 years ago
A match made in purgatory.
didereaux over 13 years ago
Politicians who overestimate the intelligence of the average American voter, will assure a loss come election time.
Palyke over 13 years ago
Lets all decide to vote Tea Party and get term limits initiated. Then the career polititions will have to go home and we won’t need to worry about any politition being in office for forever. Get new blood and get back to normal “For the People, By the People and Of the People” like it should be and used to be.
Justice22 over 13 years ago
^ I think somebody listened to someone who said, “A large deficit is good for the economy”. and also said, “Outsourcing jobs allows us to live better for less.”
SuperGriz over 13 years ago
JubjubBird,
You left out the mysterious “Secret Hold”.
http://tinyurl.com/34e53xh
http://tinyurl.com/3xhnxv6
http://tinyurl.com/3ym5fma
http://tinyurl.com/2944uys
http://tinyurl.com/2vz3xes
Jaedabee Premium Member over 13 years ago
Tigger, Sweetheart, would you please enlighten us with what bills [passed in 2007] caused the immediate wrecking of the economy (and not, say, things like not regulating derivatives. Less regulation is betterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr *explode*)?
SuperGriz over 13 years ago
fennec,
I think Justice is being sarcastic, but not to you.
Dtroutma over 13 years ago
Tigger’s facts are as accurate as his spelling.
fennec, reading Weston now. It’s a lot like reading some of my old psych classes, but a good refresher with a good spin on where we’re at.
The Republicans have been playing “Three Card Monte” for a long time, and the cops haven’t pulled them off the street. The suckers keep coming.
SuperGriz over 13 years ago
Wednesday’s Toles is here:
http://tinyurl.com/37z7mrq