I agree, C.A. Brobst. Don’t get me started about corporate executives. I worked for one and when I quit I wrote a scathing letter to him about how his front line employees had to work two jobs on the sly (it was against company policy to hold a job other than the one they were hired for) to make ends meet or get ahead at all while he has three houses, three months vacation, etc. If I had been one of the tellers (oops!), I would have organized a walk-out. Oh wait, I did quit And I’m the happier for it.
Barbaratoo - Why do you have “wealth envy?” If you actually worked harder you could have had 3 houses, too. Your boss obviously worked several hundred times harder than you and deserves every penny. *
I do find it interesting, though, that “unions” are the only thing pictured here, and not multi-billion dollar CEOs who devour large portions of their companies’ profits. I am not saying that unions are not entirely without fault: the UAW did have its faults with people who didn’t work for years still being paid ~100% salary… but that certainly doesn’t give carte blanche to the buddy-buddy shareholder-exec circle-jerk at the top where bankrupting your company still nets you billions in severance pay.
You do understand we are talking public employee unions. They are actually bankrupting some states. Look at California. In the private sector union membership only makes up 8% of the work force. But in the public employee unions with guaranteed salaries and retirement plans with built in escalation the long range contracted debt is more than 100% of state income. That is just one reason Obama just bailed out some state unions. We all pay for the folly of the coastal states.
Just why do you think unions donated millions of dollars solely to Democrats? They got what they paid for. Seriously, look at the California long range budget.
Read this:
Excerpt from: “The Millionaire Cop Next Door” by Rich Karlgaard, editor Forbes.com
Who are America’s fastest-growing class of millionaires? They are police officers, firefighters, teachers and federal bureaucrats, who, unless things change drastically, will be paid something near their full salaries every year–until death–after retiring in their mid-50s. That is equivalent to a retirement sum worth millions of dollars.
You seem pretty sharp. Unions give 95% of their contributions to Democrats. In 2008 corporations split their contributions 60% to Democrats and 40% to Republicans.
Goldman-Sachs was a major democratic party contributor.
Use logic unions only have one constituency- members. Corporations sell to everyone Dems and Reps. They don’t wish to anger customers.
I can never understand why liberals so quickly assume the corporations only give to the GOP. For years they have split approximately 60/40
Libertarian, it’s been two years since 2008. You really need to update your data. Any idea how much banks have been giving to Democrats vs. Republicans in 2010? Only the Republicans are standing boldly between banks and free-market competition now, and they’re scared.
“In 2008 corporations split their contributions 60% to Democrats and 40% to Republicans.”
What about contributions from banks to the cons from 2000-2008? I’m willing to bet the cons got more money than the dems. There’s a reason why the cons are for not regulating the banks, not getting us out of NAFTA, GAAT, and WTO, and adamant about not letting the Bush tax cuts expire.
WarBush over 13 years ago
<========You don’t have to tell me twice. I prefer the younger ones myself.
myming over 13 years ago
no news day ?
let’s hear it from the unions…
Charles Brobst Premium Member over 13 years ago
Unions? Are there any left? It’s the corporate executives relying on taxpayers to stay afloat.
Barbaratoo over 13 years ago
I agree, C.A. Brobst. Don’t get me started about corporate executives. I worked for one and when I quit I wrote a scathing letter to him about how his front line employees had to work two jobs on the sly (it was against company policy to hold a job other than the one they were hired for) to make ends meet or get ahead at all while he has three houses, three months vacation, etc. If I had been one of the tellers (oops!), I would have organized a walk-out. Oh wait, I did quit And I’m the happier for it.
jkoskov over 13 years ago
Accurate. Painful, but accurate.
Gypsy8 over 13 years ago
Criminal! For many corporate executives, its legalized looting of the company.
Jaedabee Premium Member over 13 years ago
Barbaratoo - Why do you have “wealth envy?” If you actually worked harder you could have had 3 houses, too. Your boss obviously worked several hundred times harder than you and deserves every penny. *
I do find it interesting, though, that “unions” are the only thing pictured here, and not multi-billion dollar CEOs who devour large portions of their companies’ profits. I am not saying that unions are not entirely without fault: the UAW did have its faults with people who didn’t work for years still being paid ~100% salary… but that certainly doesn’t give carte blanche to the buddy-buddy shareholder-exec circle-jerk at the top where bankrupting your company still nets you billions in severance pay.
* = Tongue in cheek
Libertarian1 over 13 years ago
You do understand we are talking public employee unions. They are actually bankrupting some states. Look at California. In the private sector union membership only makes up 8% of the work force. But in the public employee unions with guaranteed salaries and retirement plans with built in escalation the long range contracted debt is more than 100% of state income. That is just one reason Obama just bailed out some state unions. We all pay for the folly of the coastal states.
Just why do you think unions donated millions of dollars solely to Democrats? They got what they paid for. Seriously, look at the California long range budget.
josefw over 13 years ago
Read this: Excerpt from: “The Millionaire Cop Next Door” by Rich Karlgaard, editor Forbes.com
Who are America’s fastest-growing class of millionaires? They are police officers, firefighters, teachers and federal bureaucrats, who, unless things change drastically, will be paid something near their full salaries every year–until death–after retiring in their mid-50s. That is equivalent to a retirement sum worth millions of dollars.
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0628/opinions-rich-karlgaard-digital-rules-millionaire-cop-next-door.html
lonecat over 13 years ago
^ wealth envy?
Libertarian1 over 13 years ago
fennec
You seem pretty sharp. Unions give 95% of their contributions to Democrats. In 2008 corporations split their contributions 60% to Democrats and 40% to Republicans.
Goldman-Sachs was a major democratic party contributor.
Use logic unions only have one constituency- members. Corporations sell to everyone Dems and Reps. They don’t wish to anger customers.
I can never understand why liberals so quickly assume the corporations only give to the GOP. For years they have split approximately 60/40
ARodney over 13 years ago
Libertarian, it’s been two years since 2008. You really need to update your data. Any idea how much banks have been giving to Democrats vs. Republicans in 2010? Only the Republicans are standing boldly between banks and free-market competition now, and they’re scared.
Libertarian1 over 13 years ago
^ There are many corporations in the US other than banks. Just Soros alone gives millions to the Democrats.
WarBush over 13 years ago
“In 2008 corporations split their contributions 60% to Democrats and 40% to Republicans.”
What about contributions from banks to the cons from 2000-2008? I’m willing to bet the cons got more money than the dems. There’s a reason why the cons are for not regulating the banks, not getting us out of NAFTA, GAAT, and WTO, and adamant about not letting the Bush tax cuts expire.
lonecat over 13 years ago
So I guess 60% of the pro-business posters are also democrats?
Libertarian1 over 13 years ago
^ more likely 60% republican. but that is not how they contribute
Dtroutma over 13 years ago
that 8% of workers in unions INCLUDES “government” workers. There was a guy named Reagan-
Libertarian1 over 13 years ago
^ not true 8% of private workers. 3-4X that for government workers. I think it becomes 13-14% overall.