Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for March 19, 2016

J.J., the critics aren’t getting to Mike. But you have three guesses as to who is getting to him.

It’s worth wondering what might have happened if JJ had let the critics get to her…

Mike was so pathetically desperate to get involved with this head case.

You can’t say he’s not trying.

I can’t take any of them seriously. We don’t vote FOR any one we just vote AGAINST someone.

Yes, they’ve given an empty-suit buffoon more attention than all the other candidates combined (that’s by actual count). I long to go back to 1952 and 1956, when we had two candidates who were both respected and solid and spoke to the genuine issues of the day. (Sigh!) Instead, we’re reliving 1964, and will be faced with the choice between and idiot and a crook.

Critics who would visit and critique a “lavatory” show are not to be concerned with.

“Your side Lost” (?) It’s not a football game.

Actually Gore won the popular vote. The Supreme Court overstepped their bounds and made Bush the prez. Hillary is neither an idiot nor a crook.

The Senate’s side lost the Presidency twice, and did they get over it?

@sarazan7@Richard S. Russell“I can’t take any of them seriously. We don’t vote FOR any one we just vote AGAINST someone.”.I voted FOR Reagan and uh and uh and, well I voted FOR Reagan.

@DavidHuieGreen“It is a unifying feature keeping our country united.”“Not working very well is it?”.Consider.

.No other nation on earth has so many different ethnicities, races, religions, interests and yet holds together freely..It works amazingly well.

@DavidHuieGreen“I’m proud to say I voted against Reagan.”.Good for you that you can be proud of a better choice between two bad choices, as you saw them..We all make the best choices we can and hope the aggregate will be better than putting it all in the hands of some autocrat..We might have done better under four more years of Jimmy Carter but I didn’t and don’t think so.

“I am not proud of the fact that at one time I voted for Nixon. He seemed better of the two choices at the time.”.He was. Even after — or perhaps especially after — he died, he was a better choice than McGovern.

Both Humphrey and McGovern were far superior candidates to Nixon. Really too bad Humphrey didn’t win. Humphrey lost by an eyelash. By the time McGovern ran against Nixon he was a sitting president and as such, much harder to run against. Both Humphrey and McGovern would have made far superior choices for our country in terms of governance as compared to Nixon. Nixon was indeed a criminal. He was well on the way to being impeached when he resigned instead. It was also too bad that Carter didn’t manage to get a 2nd term. At any rate, those days look so different now. At the same time, let’s not forget the trials and tribulations that our country went through at the hands of Richard Nixon.

You speak the truth. Thank you.

Do I detect bias on my part?Could be, since I loved Reagan so much..How about Carter, am I being too hard on him?Nah, too forgiving..How about long-winded.Oh, yeah, waaaayyyyyyy too long-winded; it’s one of my many faults.

@DavidHuieGreen“The final counting done by a news paper showed Al Gore still winning by several thousand votes. Not that anyone in power cared…”.I cared. I am a very caring person.Nonetheless, your claim is disputed by http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12623-2001Nov11.htmlwhich says,.“But an examination of the disputed ballots suggests that in hindsight the battalions of lawyers and election experts who descended on Florida pursued strategies that ended up working against the interests of their candidates..“The study indicates, for example, that Bush had less to fear from the recounts underway than he thought. Under any standard used to judge the ballots in the four counties where Gore lawyers had sought a recount — Palm Beach, Broward, Miami-Dade and Volusia — Bush still ended up with more votes than Gore, according to the study. Bush also would have had more votes if the limited statewide recount ordered by the Florida Supreme Court and then stopped by the U.S. Supreme Court had been carried through.”.They do claim

“But the study also found that whether dimples are counted or a more restrictive standard is used, a statewide tally favored Gore by 60 to 171 votes..“Gore’s narrow margin in the statewide count was the result of a windfall in overvotes. Those ballots — on which a voter may have marked a candidate’s name and also written it in — were rejected by machines as a double vote on Election Day and most also would not have been included in either of the limited recounts.”.We also note that Gore only wanted some of the discarded votes counted, the ones he thought would support him..“Using the most inclusive standards, Bush actually gained more votes than Gore — about 300 net — from the examination of the undervote ballots. But Gore picked up 885 more votes than Bush from the examination of overvote ballots, 662 of those from optical scan ballots.”

“The “battle force” of Cubans were building an air strip. The students who were “saved” didn’t need it and after the death of so many marines in Beirut, it was a distraction.”.So you think the invasion was planned in the two days between the explosion and the invasion?Me don’t think so..“After a 1983 internal power struggle ended with the deposition and murder of revolutionary prime minister Maurice Bishop, the invasion began early on 25 October 1983, just two days and several hours after the bombing of the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut (early 23 October Beirut time).”.In fact, Reagan would have had to have been psychic or maybe Nancy’s psychic actually was when we consider he came out against the actions much earlier..“In March 1983, President Ronald Reagan began issuing warnings about the threat posed to the United States and the Caribbean by the “Soviet-Cuban militarization” of the Caribbean as evidenced by the excessively long airplane runway being built, as well as intelligence sources indicating increased Soviet interest in the island. He said that the 9,000-foot (2,700 m) runway and the numerous fuel storage tanks were unnecessary for commercial flights, and that evidence pointed that the airport was to become a Cuban-Soviet forward military airbase".Consider:“Fidel Castro often described Cuban construction crews deployed overseas as “workers and soldiers at the same time”; ".“Other historians have asserted that most of the supposed civil technicians on Grenada were Cuban special forces and combat engineers.”.Please note I picked and chose which parts of my buddy, Wikki, to quote here, not because I claim to know what was really going on, but because others DO claim they know, beyond a shadow of a doubt what was going on in my beloved Ronald Reagan’s head at the time and that his every word was a lie. As I see it, if they were just construction workers, our military should have been able to quickly conquer them, since they would not have weapons or well honed martial skills capable of putting up a resistance at all..By the way, the claim that President Reagan gave out more medals than there were combatants, seems to assume no more than one medal per participant. I understand the desire for equality in outcome but don’t see where it applies in life..The people of Grenada definitely see it differently:“The date of the invasion is now a national holiday in Grenada, called Thanksgiving Day. For many Grenadians, the Grenada Revolution died with Bishop and so they gave thanks when the US rescued them from the faction which killed Bishop. ".We shouldn’t let our prejudices blind us.

(Well, possibly except for my love of Reagan, of course. That’s different.)

It’s refreshing to see somebody not realizing that even if they didn’t blow it, their work would still suck :p

Fascinating, one post and you’ve proven you know NOTHING about that time in history. You’ve managed to grossly mischaracterize both Carter and Reagan.

Thats COMBAT engineers ijit, and instead of a battalion they had a full Brigade on Grenada. We EXPECTED regular army engineers and not many, just enough to build a strip, but they were also putting up field fortifications and digging in for the long go. It’s a good thing we threw an elephant at what we thought was a very small mouse or we would have most certainly sustained an order of magnitude more casualties, as that mouse was very very heavily armed, and there was a brigade sized formation of them.

@DavidHuieGreen“My you do make up a lot of crap don’t you?”.About 18" by 2" diameter per day, but don’t you think that’s a bit personal?.As to what I write, that in quotes is from other sources, some cited, all find-able.