Tom Toles for June 18, 2010

Woulda, coulda, shoulda. Better make sure you get the Chinese and Indians on board.

Stop your parents! Maybe you can STOP them in the name of LOVE…

Stop! In the name of love Before you break my heart

Baby, baby I’m aware of where you go Each time you leave my door I watch you walk down the street Knowing your other love you’ll meet But this time before you run to her Leaving me alone and hurt (Think it over) After I’ve been good to you ? (Think it over) After I’ve been sweet to you ?

Stop! In the name of love Before you break my heart Stop! In the name of love Before you break my heart Think it over Think it over

I’ve known of your Your secluded nights I’ve even seen her Maybe once or twice But is her sweet expression Worth more than my love and affection ? But this time before you leave my arms And rush of to her charms (Think it over) Haven’t I been good to you ? (Think it over) Haven’t I been sweet to you ?

Stop! In the name of love Before you break my heart Stop! In the name of love Before you break my heart Think it over Think it over

I’ve tried so hard, hard to be patient Hoping you’d stop this infatuation But each time you are together I’m so afraid I’ll be losing you forever

Stop! In the name of love Before you break my heart Stop! In the name of love Before you break my heart Stop! In the name of love Before you break my heart

Baby, think it over Think it over, baby Ooh, think it over baby

Just put wind and solar everywhere and make all cars hybrid.

human - any plan that transforms something into oil will be pricier than just pumping oil; this is why no one cared about the oil shale sands of Canada until the price per barrel got high enough. Doesn’t mean we can’t or shouldn’t use it. The pollution problem may be greater, however, both in terms of CO2 and also the various icky substances we don’t really want to turn into smoke particles and distribute around the world by air…

Anybody ever research the amount of CO2 produced by a human exhaling. multiplied by 6.8 billion every day, probably a lot. Just saying.

@kensurg: Apparently (according to teh Google) human respiration accounts for 11% of CO2 emissions. That said, we’re not about to stop people from breathing – all the more reason to regulate emissions from other sources.

Cheap energy built this country what will costly energy do to it?Paying less is over rated.

If CO2 is not a demon that dont make it an angel

When I read Harley & Nandys posts I am reminded that human intelligence is a constant but the population is growing.

“Anybody ever research the amount of CO2 produced by a human exhaling”

Human air exhaled is not all CO2. Plenty of oxygen is returned to the atmosphere during an ordinary breath. Otherwise you could suffocate someone by breathing into them during mouth-to-mouth, etc.

And since we’re back to this again I’ll repeat myself: CO2, while not entirely bad, is not solely what is produced in the typical hydrocarbon reaction. A perfect hydrocarbon reaction would net only [some amt]CO2 + [some amt]H2O. However what we end up with additionally, among other things, is some amount of CO. That is deadly. If you leave your car running in a closed garage you can die of Carbon Monoxide poisoning. Notice that’s not Carbon DIOXIDE poisoning. This is true of factories as well.

@harleyquinn: Yes, it’s all just some big conspiracy amongst scientists to take your precious gasoline away from you. We never thought you’d be smart enough to figure it out on your own like that. Good job…

Jade; not to mention nitrogen. I think our air is like 75 percent nitrogen, twentysomenthing percent oxygen…

…or the other way around….

All I know is that if it was all O2, it would catch on fire.

78% Nitrogen, 21 % Oxygen, Argon (inert) 0.9 %actually exceeds CO2 at 0.03 %. It is precisely the impact of such a tiny percentage of the atmosphere being CO2 that makes changing that percentage, by even a small total number of molecules, but proportionately LARGE amount that makes it “hazardous”.

Increasing the size of a projectile, from say, a BB, to the size of say, a .22, then to a .45 makes a significant difference in the resulting damage when we shoot ourselves in the foot, or head, by ignoring the change WE have made.

There is no “technology” to maintain or improve profits as our population and demands for “MORE”, of everything, that will return balance, or save a planet infested with too many creatures unwilling to accept responsibility for their actions.

At some point, survival must become a more powerful force than profit.

“78% Nitrogen, 21 % Oxygen, Argon (inert) 0.9 %actually exceeds CO2 at 0.03 %.”

I’d appreciate it if you didn’t flash your liberal socialist communist tree-hugging “facts” around here, I’m trying to pollute.

Global warming alarmists would be such fun to laugh at with their incredible simple minded ignorance if they weren’t so bleeep dangerous.

Thanks, fennec, for an informative comment. It’s too bad that it won’t get noticed by those who need to think about it.

@hq: Ah, yes – that old canard that “scientists 40 years ago thought the opposite”. Except most of them didn’t – there was only one peer-reviewed paper in the ’70s that had a mention of a potential ice age, and within months it was debunked.

But don’t let the facts get in the way of what you want to believe…

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/opinion/story.html?id=a94b56a5-5df2-4982-ba0b-7724efb31338&p=2

Sorry to burst your bubble, harley – my, you’re posting a lot today – but you are, let’s see, wrong on the research funding and your implied dis on THOUSANDS of scientists working in this field, wrong on Al Gore (his errors were minor compared to what he got right), wrong on your views of CO2 despite patient and impatient responses from people far better qualified than you to judge (e.g., fennec, the biologist), and of course you are absolutely wrong on global warming. It’s happening, the data are converging nicely from a huge variety of sources, even the hockey stick has been decisively shown to be right within a very small degree of error. For Pete’s sake, have you read anything but the right-wing oil-funded sites?

There’s hope for the future… er, … past.

^ We have to kill them to prevent Skynet from using the technology to go back into the past and kill Mr. Conner!

COME WITH ME IF YOU WANT TO LIVE!

silly me, I thought the warming was from that STAR, our SUN. duh. that may be too scientific. either way we humans will adjust.