If we could only figure out how to harness the power of vitriol - liberals would satisfy our energy needs for infinity, and without any ill effects to the environment.
Seize all assets of BP, Halliburton, and their co-conspirator and use that to shut down to gusher they’ve proved themselves incapable of stopping. Stop ocean drilling.
This one trick pony mantra of “Its all Bush and Cheney’s fault!” is really getting old, guys.
Why don’t y’all start looking inward for a while. You may find it refreshing, if not enlightening.
OOPS, I forgot, you aren’t in the business of taking responsibility for ANYTHING but other people’s successes. There are no failures on your part that can’t be blamed on someone else especially Bush and Cheney.
You people have become a sad joke cliche’.
Just as an aside: Cheney has been gone from Haliburton ten years + and both he and Bush have been out of office for a year and a half.
Thought you would like to know since y’all don’t seem to have gotten the word.
It would help if you could read instead of having to look at pictures.
As most on the right your thinking is selective Mr.Ewing. When Haliburton bought cheney years before the V.P. gig they followed him down the path of bending regulations and payoffs in the right places that have continued. Not that they weren’t already doing that, he just showed them the path of least resistance/highest profit. His continuing paycheck in gratitude of his guidance and assured profits through the cheney/bush years….like it or not he is a despicable human being
I’m trying to understand how liberals who oppose ocean drilling are supposed to take credit/blame for an ecological disaster caused by something they oppose?
Bill doesn’t understand the connection of Cheney with Halliburton defying regulatory procedures. When Cheney left Halliburton, it was failing big time. Included in Cheney’s energy policy which was installed within days of taking office, was Halliburton being offered no-bid contracts for everything from oil operations in the Gulf to Katrina, Iraq and Afghanistan.
While in office, Cheney received a check for $200,000.00 every month. I’m sure he is still getting his check now. Maybe if Bill and Andy actually read books, periodicals and newspapers instead of watch “Faux News Channel, they might understand the meaning of current events in light of the corruption set in motion my tricky DICK.
Those Three CEOs just gave the Three Stooges a bad name, with their Congressional Testimony Finger Pointing.
Can’t wait for them to try dumping car tires and golf balls into the pipe - and when it fails blame the golf ball and tire manufactures for not making their product well enough to stop a massive oil leak.
You’d think that after all the cement Halliburton has poured over the years they’d have gotten the technique perfected.
Excuse my Wiki Halliburton History:
“In 1919, Erle Halliburton starts New Method Oil Well Cementing Company”
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“In 1938, Halliburton cements the first offshore well using a truck on a barge off the Louisiana coast.”
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1990s
”Following the end of Operation Desert Storm in February 1991, the Pentagon, led by then Defense Secretary Dick Cheney, paid Halliburton subsidiary Brown & Root Services over $8.5 million to study the use of private military forces with American soldiers in combat zones.”
”Thomas H. Cruikshank, who served as chairman and CEO from 1989 until 1995, was replaced by Dick Cheney.”
Halliburton - From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Halliburton started out pouring cement in the early 1900’s & now is a Huge Multinational Operation. They certainly would have deep pockets to help clean up the mess.
churchill, since you’re the reasonable poster from the right, you might want to check that “divested himself from Halliburton” factoid. He didn’t divest. I believe he put it in a trust. He owns significant amount of Halliburton stock and does indeed continues to benefit personally from their success.
I love the way Coulter, Rush and the limbauciles whine about “vitriol” from the left, when the gas bags flame every effort to expose real facts, and the absurdity of their arguments.
They have a pretty good idea now of what caused the explosion- it was called natural gas- which is common, the exact spark hasn’t yet been identified. The CAUSE of the whole mess was sloppy work by a company, actually several, long known and cited for their violations of safety rules.
It WAS the industry of Cheney and Bush, and the changes THEY brought through appointments and regulation changes, or the ignoring of regulations, and cut-backs on enforcement staffing- that led to the end result.
Exploration and development WILL be needed in the foreseeable future. REGULATING that exploration and development again, IS the role of GOVERNMENT on those GOVERNMENT ISSUED LEASES! BTW- it would also be nice to start getting real royalties instead of IOUs and cons again.
There are over 3,800 wells / drilling platforms operating offshore in the Gulf, some of them for decades, providing for about 30% of US domestic production.
Though they have been subjected to some major hurricanes, their record of spills is pretty good.
Indeed, 0bama said that during Katrina, the oil spills came from the refineries - on land, not the off-shore facilities.
The drilling platform was one of the largest in the world, and was designed for, and has withstood enormous loads of hurricane-types of winds.
I doubt that natural gas, however pressurized and voluminous, reacting with sea-level ambient air, and thus in open space, would have generated the kind of concentrated energy that would topple the platform.
” … it was a lack of government control that allowed BP to go in with no disaster plan.”
Assuming that the above statement is correct, isn’t it than the GOVERNMENT that screwed up?
The point is that regardless of who is at the helm, the efficiency and effectiveness of any bureaucracy is inverse to its size and scope.
The “audacity of hope and change”, has thus far shown a singular competency of getting thousands of pages of government expending laws jammed down the throats of American People without it being read, much less understood by the Democratic ‘legislators’.
Arrogance and Audacity is a permanent disability in Liberals….Halliburton is a very old oil field service company and Cheney was employed late in its existence, for a short time, and has nothing to do with anything that the company has done since he retired.
The spill is not the major catastrophe you Libs portray for your own spiteful hate-big-biz and especially the Fossil Fuel Biz agenda! Compare the gallons of crude to the gallons of seawater in the Gulf….and 1/3 of the crude has already evaporated naturally….this media-enabled HOAX is ridiculous. The well is 5000 feet below surface and difficult to cap…but BP will succeed in due time. The oil is partially recoverable…it is a natural element….necessary for modern life as we know it.
“Arrogance and Audacity is a permanent disability in Liberals…”
Actually I won’t deny that one, but it’s a permanent disability of Conservatives, too. Everyone, actually. So it’s really the pot calling the kettle black.
Harley, find a gas water heater in someone’s garage. Blow out the pilot light, wait two hours, enter the garage, and strike a match. It is the flash point of natural gas that makes it natural gas in the mix, as noted by the “experts” within hours of the fire. Who caused the “spark”, may never be answered.
As for “disgusted”, your ignorance of oil exploration can only be derived from listening to Rush or Coulter, at best. Halliburton IS a very old company, which went down the moral toilet for good when Cheney took over. The economics of “recovery” of this crude in the Gulf would be as absurd as Bush invading Iraq for $1.35 with Iraq paying all costs, oh, wait, that didn’t work, did it??
“Righties” spewing about the “ignorance” of “liberals”, like those with experience in the oil industry and leasing, would be funny, if not tragically sad.
Andy–Pilot cutoffs can fail, just like the blowout preventer in this incident. (METAPHOR). Harley can drive by most any oil refinery and look at that stack burning off natural gas (still) you don’t need a closed space to burn natural gas, or just consider a Bunsen or Fisher burner in a laboratory.
Who would have ever guessed that knowing how to create fire without prayer is a Neo-Socialist exclusive???
I have a much better garage experiment for you - the lefties. The conservative wing-nuts are too stupid for this, as they believe in God and don’t get the basic laws of physics and chemistry, so they would probably screw this up, and might cause some damage …
Close all openings of the garage; disconnect the water heater from the gas line - make sure that the gas is flowing unimpeded; make sure that you don’t have to leave the garage during the experiment, as it would contaminate the space, so bring some food and drink and maybe something to read or watch, to keep you comfortable; wait about an hour (if its a 3-car garage, give it another 1/2 hour); then strike a match or light a cigarette lighter - nothing will happen, I guarantee it. Indeed you won’t be able to ignite the match or the lighter, because the gas would have by now supplanted all oxygen in the garage, as the air would have been forced out through the imperfect seals of the openings.
After you are done, make sure to reconnect the water heater, and open the door slowly, so as to let the gas dissipates orderly, without igniting.
churchill, it’s actually more debateable than that. He may not get money directly into his pocket – as far as we know, since there are ways – it doesn’t mean it’s an ethical relationship in any case.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/26/politics/main575356.shtml
http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/about_hal/ethics.html
Funny, giving money to a company you used to run – and for whom you could work again later – used to be called corrupt. Instead, you call *me* a “partisan hack,” which shows how little you know about me. Goodbye, churchill. I’ve made an effort, but it doesn’t seem to be worth it.
petergrt almost 14 years ago
If we could only figure out how to harness the power of vitriol - liberals would satisfy our energy needs for infinity, and without any ill effects to the environment.
GJ_Jehosaphat almost 14 years ago
Cheney’s legacy to our Children & Our Children’s Children & For Generations to come.
Charles Brobst Premium Member almost 14 years ago
Seize all assets of BP, Halliburton, and their co-conspirator and use that to shut down to gusher they’ve proved themselves incapable of stopping. Stop ocean drilling.
willikiii almost 14 years ago
This one trick pony mantra of “Its all Bush and Cheney’s fault!” is really getting old, guys.
Why don’t y’all start looking inward for a while. You may find it refreshing, if not enlightening.
OOPS, I forgot, you aren’t in the business of taking responsibility for ANYTHING but other people’s successes. There are no failures on your part that can’t be blamed on someone else especially Bush and Cheney.
You people have become a sad joke cliche’.
Just as an aside: Cheney has been gone from Haliburton ten years + and both he and Bush have been out of office for a year and a half.
Thought you would like to know since y’all don’t seem to have gotten the word.
It would help if you could read instead of having to look at pictures.
Jascat almost 14 years ago
I would be LMAO at the conservative speak if the whole thing wasn’t so d..n sad…
hancel almost 14 years ago
As most on the right your thinking is selective Mr.Ewing. When Haliburton bought cheney years before the V.P. gig they followed him down the path of bending regulations and payoffs in the right places that have continued. Not that they weren’t already doing that, he just showed them the path of least resistance/highest profit. His continuing paycheck in gratitude of his guidance and assured profits through the cheney/bush years….like it or not he is a despicable human being
Wildcard24365 almost 14 years ago
@Bill Ewing:
I’m trying to understand how liberals who oppose ocean drilling are supposed to take credit/blame for an ecological disaster caused by something they oppose?
Humor me, huh? Explain this to me.
hastynote Premium Member almost 14 years ago
Bill doesn’t understand the connection of Cheney with Halliburton defying regulatory procedures. When Cheney left Halliburton, it was failing big time. Included in Cheney’s energy policy which was installed within days of taking office, was Halliburton being offered no-bid contracts for everything from oil operations in the Gulf to Katrina, Iraq and Afghanistan.
While in office, Cheney received a check for $200,000.00 every month. I’m sure he is still getting his check now. Maybe if Bill and Andy actually read books, periodicals and newspapers instead of watch “Faux News Channel, they might understand the meaning of current events in light of the corruption set in motion my tricky DICK.
Jaedabee Premium Member almost 14 years ago
It’s Okay to blame Obama for ACORN but Cheney for Halliburton, HOW DARE YOU!?
Simon_Jester almost 14 years ago
Gimme a break Billyboy…you righties were still blaming Clinton for what was wrong with this country all the way into Bush’s second term.
As for you Harley. Yeah, it’s not BP’s fault for causing this spill, it’s the media’s fault for TALKING about it.
And you want vitriol peter? Take a look at every rightwing answer in this thread.
Bottom line, YOU guys were the ones chanting, ‘Drill, baby, drill!’ these past few years. And there’s nothing you can do to make people forget that.
biemmezeta almost 14 years ago
I thought everything was Bush’s fault??????
twieliczka almost 14 years ago
Those Three CEOs just gave the Three Stooges a bad name, with their Congressional Testimony Finger Pointing.
Can’t wait for them to try dumping car tires and golf balls into the pipe - and when it fails blame the golf ball and tire manufactures for not making their product well enough to stop a massive oil leak.
GJ_Jehosaphat almost 14 years ago
You’d think that after all the cement Halliburton has poured over the years they’d have gotten the technique perfected.
Excuse my Wiki Halliburton History:
“In 1919, Erle Halliburton starts New Method Oil Well Cementing Company” | ☜ ‘pipe’ time line | “In 1938, Halliburton cements the first offshore well using a truck on a barge off the Louisiana coast.” | | | | 1990s ”Following the end of Operation Desert Storm in February 1991, the Pentagon, led by then Defense Secretary Dick Cheney, paid Halliburton subsidiary Brown & Root Services over $8.5 million to study the use of private military forces with American soldiers in combat zones.”
”Thomas H. Cruikshank, who served as chairman and CEO from 1989 until 1995, was replaced by Dick Cheney.”
Halliburton - From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Halliburton started out pouring cement in the early 1900’s & now is a Huge Multinational Operation. They certainly would have deep pockets to help clean up the mess.
Motivemagus almost 14 years ago
churchill, since you’re the reasonable poster from the right, you might want to check that “divested himself from Halliburton” factoid. He didn’t divest. I believe he put it in a trust. He owns significant amount of Halliburton stock and does indeed continues to benefit personally from their success.
Jaedabee Premium Member almost 14 years ago
“I thought everything was Bush’s fault??????”
I thought it was all Clinton’s fault?“They still do not know how the explosion took place.”
First thing out of the mouths of the right-wingers here was “Obama eco-terrorists did it.” Mmm… media spin.“HASTY: Aside from no bid contracts in Iraq and Afghanistan (which no one else could handle)”
How about … our military? Y’know, not paying someone 2 - 3x the amount of a U.S. troop in the same situation?Dtroutma almost 14 years ago
I love the way Coulter, Rush and the limbauciles whine about “vitriol” from the left, when the gas bags flame every effort to expose real facts, and the absurdity of their arguments.
They have a pretty good idea now of what caused the explosion- it was called natural gas- which is common, the exact spark hasn’t yet been identified. The CAUSE of the whole mess was sloppy work by a company, actually several, long known and cited for their violations of safety rules.
It WAS the industry of Cheney and Bush, and the changes THEY brought through appointments and regulation changes, or the ignoring of regulations, and cut-backs on enforcement staffing- that led to the end result.
Exploration and development WILL be needed in the foreseeable future. REGULATING that exploration and development again, IS the role of GOVERNMENT on those GOVERNMENT ISSUED LEASES! BTW- it would also be nice to start getting real royalties instead of IOUs and cons again.
petergrt almost 14 years ago
There are over 3,800 wells / drilling platforms operating offshore in the Gulf, some of them for decades, providing for about 30% of US domestic production.
Though they have been subjected to some major hurricanes, their record of spills is pretty good.
Indeed, 0bama said that during Katrina, the oil spills came from the refineries - on land, not the off-shore facilities.
Jaedabee Premium Member almost 14 years ago
^ This explosion wasn’t caused by a hurricane.
petergrt almost 14 years ago
The drilling platform was one of the largest in the world, and was designed for, and has withstood enormous loads of hurricane-types of winds.
I doubt that natural gas, however pressurized and voluminous, reacting with sea-level ambient air, and thus in open space, would have generated the kind of concentrated energy that would topple the platform.
Michael Scott Premium Member almost 14 years ago
ANandy said, about 14 hours ago
A lot of responsibility for the mess is the failure of the government that wants to be the total control of the Nation’s health care.
Actually it was a lack of government control that allowed BP to go in with no disaster plan. Thank your boy dubya for that cock-up.
petergrt almost 14 years ago
” … it was a lack of government control that allowed BP to go in with no disaster plan.”
Assuming that the above statement is correct, isn’t it than the GOVERNMENT that screwed up?
The point is that regardless of who is at the helm, the efficiency and effectiveness of any bureaucracy is inverse to its size and scope.
The “audacity of hope and change”, has thus far shown a singular competency of getting thousands of pages of government expending laws jammed down the throats of American People without it being read, much less understood by the Democratic ‘legislators’.
SClark55 Premium Member almost 14 years ago
This toon is hilarious - a lot of these lefty toons are so stupid, you can only laugh at them.
disgustedtaxpayer almost 14 years ago
Arrogance and Audacity is a permanent disability in Liberals….Halliburton is a very old oil field service company and Cheney was employed late in its existence, for a short time, and has nothing to do with anything that the company has done since he retired.
The spill is not the major catastrophe you Libs portray for your own spiteful hate-big-biz and especially the Fossil Fuel Biz agenda! Compare the gallons of crude to the gallons of seawater in the Gulf….and 1/3 of the crude has already evaporated naturally….this media-enabled HOAX is ridiculous. The well is 5000 feet below surface and difficult to cap…but BP will succeed in due time. The oil is partially recoverable…it is a natural element….necessary for modern life as we know it.
Jaedabee Premium Member almost 14 years ago
“Arrogance and Audacity is a permanent disability in Liberals…”
Actually I won’t deny that one, but it’s a permanent disability of Conservatives, too. Everyone, actually. So it’s really the pot calling the kettle black.Dtroutma almost 14 years ago
Harley, find a gas water heater in someone’s garage. Blow out the pilot light, wait two hours, enter the garage, and strike a match. It is the flash point of natural gas that makes it natural gas in the mix, as noted by the “experts” within hours of the fire. Who caused the “spark”, may never be answered.
As for “disgusted”, your ignorance of oil exploration can only be derived from listening to Rush or Coulter, at best. Halliburton IS a very old company, which went down the moral toilet for good when Cheney took over. The economics of “recovery” of this crude in the Gulf would be as absurd as Bush invading Iraq for $1.35 with Iraq paying all costs, oh, wait, that didn’t work, did it??
“Righties” spewing about the “ignorance” of “liberals”, like those with experience in the oil industry and leasing, would be funny, if not tragically sad.
Simon_Jester almost 14 years ago
And ANAndy knows we’re all Neo-Socialists…and you know how he knows?
Because he got down on his knees and he prayed…he prayed.
“Jeezus….If everyone who disagrees with me is NOT a durty socialist…turn this water into WINE!”
( Helps to use an empty glass. )
Now, having said that, let’s turn to his lil’ non-sequitur.
Where is Obama mentioned in that article, Jack?
Nowhere.
You know how long it takes to bring in an oil-well?
A lot longer than President Obama has been in office.
This isn’t more lies and obfuscation from the left.
It’s more ignorant redneck hatred.
Dtroutma almost 14 years ago
Andy–Pilot cutoffs can fail, just like the blowout preventer in this incident. (METAPHOR). Harley can drive by most any oil refinery and look at that stack burning off natural gas (still) you don’t need a closed space to burn natural gas, or just consider a Bunsen or Fisher burner in a laboratory.
Who would have ever guessed that knowing how to create fire without prayer is a Neo-Socialist exclusive???
petergrt almost 14 years ago
http://www.deepwater.com/fw/main/Deepwater-Horizon-56C17.html?LayoutID=17
I have a much better garage experiment for you - the lefties. The conservative wing-nuts are too stupid for this, as they believe in God and don’t get the basic laws of physics and chemistry, so they would probably screw this up, and might cause some damage …
Close all openings of the garage; disconnect the water heater from the gas line - make sure that the gas is flowing unimpeded; make sure that you don’t have to leave the garage during the experiment, as it would contaminate the space, so bring some food and drink and maybe something to read or watch, to keep you comfortable; wait about an hour (if its a 3-car garage, give it another 1/2 hour); then strike a match or light a cigarette lighter - nothing will happen, I guarantee it. Indeed you won’t be able to ignite the match or the lighter, because the gas would have by now supplanted all oxygen in the garage, as the air would have been forced out through the imperfect seals of the openings.
After you are done, make sure to reconnect the water heater, and open the door slowly, so as to let the gas dissipates orderly, without igniting.
Have fun, and good luck.
Motivemagus almost 14 years ago
churchill, it’s actually more debateable than that. He may not get money directly into his pocket – as far as we know, since there are ways – it doesn’t mean it’s an ethical relationship in any case. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/26/politics/main575356.shtml http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/about_hal/ethics.html
parkersinthehouse almost 14 years ago
guilty as charged
isn’t he still a paid consultant? what about his other connections, brown and root, kellog
check out citizen works tools for democracy
“A sampling of contracts awarded to Halliburton and their subsidiary Kellogg Brown and Root:
$7 billion contract to put out oil fires in Iraq, which could include production and distribution of Irai oil
10-year Logistics Civil Augmentation Program (LOGCAP) contract from the Pentagon, with no cost limits
$115 million to design and construct an embassy compound in Afghanistan
$37.3 million to build 816 detention cells at Guantanamo Bay Cuba, where terrorist suspects captured in Afghanistan are held
a $5.3 million contract for emergency repairs to an oil and lubricants pier facility at Lajes Field, Azores
$2 million to reinforce the U.S. embassy in Uzbekistan.
$30 million contract for “security upgrades worldwide’ ’
$10 million for ‘worldwide general contruction”
under whose watch??
Sources: The U.S. State Department and Taxpayers for Common Sense
comYics almost 14 years ago
So according to the dems on gocomics, the repubs on gocomics must “assume” that 9/11 was Bill Clinton’s fault.
WarBush almost 14 years ago
<====^Of course! I’m the one who blamed him!
Motivemagus almost 14 years ago
Funny, giving money to a company you used to run – and for whom you could work again later – used to be called corrupt. Instead, you call *me* a “partisan hack,” which shows how little you know about me. Goodbye, churchill. I’ve made an effort, but it doesn’t seem to be worth it.
WarBush almost 14 years ago
^I gave up on gramps a long time ago.