Inequity in Profiling... A African American man protests that black lives matter and is labeled a thug inciting a riot. A white biker with a gun and knife is labeled a motorcycle enthusiast involved in a kerfuffle.
Several have shown photographic evidence of the difference in the way “people of color” were treated by police, vs the way these dudes were sitting around while on coffee break, talking on their cell phones.
But I know a lot of motorcycle enthusiasts (from scooters to formula sidecar racers), so do take exception with the term being used here: these guys and gals ARE the THUG element of gangs in America, that they ride bikes isn’t the problem. Low-riders, skateboards (yep), and other transport also serves gangs well.
I’m a biker and from where I’m standing the bike gangs are the antithesis of biking. Instead of freedom, they seek conformity in organisations with rigid rules. Instead of calm and contemplation – ask any motorcyclist what he feels while driving long distances down scenic roads – they seek violence. Instead of development, they choose destruction. The likes of Sonny Barger are criminals, and should be called criminals and nothing more. That is what they are.
That’s pretty thin, even for the Moonie Times. “Groups that emboldened activists”?
Reading the article, besides leaving sludge on the screen, reveals that these are (horrors!) groups that disagree with the Moonie Times. They communicate with one another! Shock! Horror!
You know who else emboldens activists? The Tea Party. The GOP. The John Birch Society. Opus Dei. You know, the “good” guys in the inbred world of the Right. Only the MT doesn’t seem to find them frightening, for some odd reason.
So remember, kids. Protest is evil, if you’re on the “wrong” side, and if holding up a sign gets you tased, shot, and your back broken, well, you asked for it by speaking up in our free society.
Comment Lite: I used the word “kerfuffle” in an email a few days ago, thinking I wouldn’t see that archaic term again for a while. And here I see it elsewhere in print, the SECOND time since I wrote it. Yeah, I find entertainment wherever I can.
Actually, they probably ride bikes because none of them look like they have the intelligence or people skills to hold down a job that would pay enough money to buy a car. Which makes them pathetic. Cops are not too scared of pathetic. Young Black men who are mad as hell at the way their people have traditionally been treated by cops are seen by cops as scary.
When my son rode with several groups at times, he also attended those “biker bars”. One in particular was interesting, in Malibu, because most of those bikers were into seven figure annual incomes. There are all types out there though.
BTW: got along fine with Barger and the Angels when they came through the park, they “policed” themselves very well.
The most aggressive and violent personality I ever ran into was arresting a 67 year old man who was beating a couple with a baseball bat because they were skinning dipping, in a place where they had lots of expectation for some privacy. The old man hunted them down when he heard them laughing. He claimed their nude swimming would destroy his grandkids morals, and his daugher’s, an was blasphemy against his god. Yes, he was arrested by me and convicted in federal court with ADW, Assault with a Deadly Weapon.
Guns aren’t needed for their to be extreme violence, and caused by irrational hate and prejudice. And we’ve long had folks nuttier than ISIL practicing their wars in more covert manner, for decades.
Yep drug dealing human trafficking murder just the kind of guys youd bring over to house and introduce your daughter too. Not all vets are law abiding citizens. Before you get your shorts in knot im a 10 yr vet
Who is saying this? Who is defending the bikers? Who is failing to identify them as criminals? The police shot them down — how many people did the police shoot and kill during the riots in Ferguson and Baltimore?
a protester is not t thug. A thug is someone who, during a protest uses the confusion and anger to rob, burn, destroy, etc. The rioters in texas were fighting amongst them selves. The thugs in Baltimore were attacking innocent victems in there own neighborhoods – AND: most of those victims were of a different race than themselves. So if you need to understand how “thuggery” and “racism” go together, start by looking east.
Dtroutma almost 9 years ago
Several have shown photographic evidence of the difference in the way “people of color” were treated by police, vs the way these dudes were sitting around while on coffee break, talking on their cell phones.
But I know a lot of motorcycle enthusiasts (from scooters to formula sidecar racers), so do take exception with the term being used here: these guys and gals ARE the THUG element of gangs in America, that they ride bikes isn’t the problem. Low-riders, skateboards (yep), and other transport also serves gangs well.
King_Shark almost 9 years ago
I’m a biker and from where I’m standing the bike gangs are the antithesis of biking. Instead of freedom, they seek conformity in organisations with rigid rules. Instead of calm and contemplation – ask any motorcyclist what he feels while driving long distances down scenic roads – they seek violence. Instead of development, they choose destruction. The likes of Sonny Barger are criminals, and should be called criminals and nothing more. That is what they are.
Carl Premium Member almost 9 years ago
Hmm, maybe a dozen arrests across the country for inciting and 200 bikers in jail for one location. Like they say, opinion writers don’t need facts.
Kip W almost 9 years ago
That’s pretty thin, even for the Moonie Times. “Groups that emboldened activists”?
Reading the article, besides leaving sludge on the screen, reveals that these are (horrors!) groups that disagree with the Moonie Times. They communicate with one another! Shock! Horror!
You know who else emboldens activists? The Tea Party. The GOP. The John Birch Society. Opus Dei. You know, the “good” guys in the inbred world of the Right. Only the MT doesn’t seem to find them frightening, for some odd reason.
So remember, kids. Protest is evil, if you’re on the “wrong” side, and if holding up a sign gets you tased, shot, and your back broken, well, you asked for it by speaking up in our free society.
emptc12 almost 9 years ago
Comment Lite: I used the word “kerfuffle” in an email a few days ago, thinking I wouldn’t see that archaic term again for a while. And here I see it elsewhere in print, the SECOND time since I wrote it. Yeah, I find entertainment wherever I can.
Diane Lee Premium Member almost 9 years ago
Actually, they probably ride bikes because none of them look like they have the intelligence or people skills to hold down a job that would pay enough money to buy a car. Which makes them pathetic. Cops are not too scared of pathetic. Young Black men who are mad as hell at the way their people have traditionally been treated by cops are seen by cops as scary.
Spyderred almost 9 years ago
Isn’t anyone puzzled by the title “Inequity” in profiling? Perhaps he means “Inequality”??
eugene57 almost 9 years ago
Yes, the outlaw bikers are such standup guys.
Dtroutma almost 9 years ago
When my son rode with several groups at times, he also attended those “biker bars”. One in particular was interesting, in Malibu, because most of those bikers were into seven figure annual incomes. There are all types out there though.
BTW: got along fine with Barger and the Angels when they came through the park, they “policed” themselves very well.
The most aggressive and violent personality I ever ran into was arresting a 67 year old man who was beating a couple with a baseball bat because they were skinning dipping, in a place where they had lots of expectation for some privacy. The old man hunted them down when he heard them laughing. He claimed their nude swimming would destroy his grandkids morals, and his daugher’s, an was blasphemy against his god. Yes, he was arrested by me and convicted in federal court with ADW, Assault with a Deadly Weapon.
Guns aren’t needed for their to be extreme violence, and caused by irrational hate and prejudice. And we’ve long had folks nuttier than ISIL practicing their wars in more covert manner, for decades.
genemascho almost 9 years ago
Yep drug dealing human trafficking murder just the kind of guys youd bring over to house and introduce your daughter too. Not all vets are law abiding citizens. Before you get your shorts in knot im a 10 yr vet
Michael Peterson Premium Member almost 9 years ago
Who is saying this? Who is defending the bikers? Who is failing to identify them as criminals? The police shot them down — how many people did the police shoot and kill during the riots in Ferguson and Baltimore?
moderateisntleft almost 9 years ago
a protester is not t thug. A thug is someone who, during a protest uses the confusion and anger to rob, burn, destroy, etc. The rioters in texas were fighting amongst them selves. The thugs in Baltimore were attacking innocent victems in there own neighborhoods – AND: most of those victims were of a different race than themselves. So if you need to understand how “thuggery” and “racism” go together, start by looking east.