There was a Korean scientist who faked some cloning data, which proves that genetics is a lie. And I’ve known kids who didn’t look exactly like either parent, so that proves it, too.
How long before “Leave no child behind” begins to show some results in this country????
If anyone thinks that the human populations and “urban sprawl” have no effect on our planet, that destroying forests and grasslands is benign then please let us see their proof. Show me their data, reports and presentations proving otherwise.
Grap, we’re not saying mankind has no effect on the planet.
Just not as big a one as they’re making it out to be.
As my grandmother always said, “No story is ever any bigger than the news media wants it to be. It’s called ‘crisis management’. They create a ‘crisis’, then they manage it.”
Everyone should be responsible. Do their part. Recycle. Turn off lights. All that kinda stuff. I do it every day.
But I refuse to go into panic mode because it isn’t nearly as bad as everyone would have you think.
Climate change means change - higher highs and lower lows.
Get over it and start doing something constructive.
We don’t own the planit, we rent it from our children.
I think we (all of us on this page) all can agree that we have a responsibility to be good stewards of the planet. I don’t think anyone thinks it’s OK to be wasteful of resources or that it’s OK to litter.
But where I and many of my friends draw the line is when the Global Warming Chicken Littles tell me that I have to completely change my lifestyle because a problem may exist down the road 100 years from now that they have no conclusive evidence that I am causing.
Get over it Eco-Freaks, most of us like to use Air conditioning in the summer. Many of us can’t use public transportation to get to work because it isn’t available. That doesn’t mean we are personally responsible for Global warming. I actually do a lot for the environment, I use a Geo-thermal system to manage the temperature in my house, I drive a relatively modest car (NOT A HYBRID), I shut off lights I’m not using, and I and my boyscout troop clean up Highways regularly.
“We don’t own the planet, we rent it from our children.”
I find it ironic that the exact same people who say that, have produced a national debt of $34,000 per person, to be paid for by our children. And that does not include either health care reform or climate change reform.
Even after we spend $trillions to control climate change, destroyed our economy and made us totally noncompetitive the Chinese and Indians will have done nothing and just out produced us.
“From a Christian perspective embraced for love, it is liberty.”
The same “love” and “liberty” these so-called Christians deny everyone else? “I got my marriage benefits and economic protections, I’m going to write in specific clauses to deny you yours.”
The claim that there is dishonest manipulation of data by legitimate client scientists is itself a fraud, perpetrated by lobbyists employed by the oil and coal industries and by the Russian FSB, descendant of the KGB.
Lisa Benson is clearly an ignorant tool of those perverse anti-American interests.
DrC – three cheers for science education! I mean this, I’m not being ironic in any way. How can we live in this world if we don’t know as much as possible about what this world is? And what we can learn is just amazing. People who don’t know some science just don’t realize what wonders they are missing. There is a grandeur to this view of life….
(But can I insert a little plug for the Humanities as well?)
Where’s the proof on WMDs? The “C” student followers challenge overwhelming amounts of data, and the variability of some models, but couldn’t come up with a single proven element that got us into war?
Lisa might have benefited from reading even one report all the way through, but that would be too complex for inquiring minds that not only don’t want to know, but don’t want anyone else to either.
Most of the climate scientists I know have said that they’ve generally been inclined to minimize the sense of danger to the Earth that they get from the data. Most of them seem to think that it is actually worse than the media reports…
My opinion is that we have to become more efficient, but that ”The Day After Tomorrow” isn’t right around the corner. It’s an unnecessary hysteria that puts people off especially when its leaders roll in the wealth. While subtlety isn’t the answer, either, legislation and action are good ideas… hysteria is not.
If there was any justice on this planet, Al Gore would slip on an ice patch and do a face plant into a six-foot tall snowdrift, never to be seen again, and Punxatawney Phil would be slowly rotating over somebody’s barbecue grill, marinated in a mesquite sauce and turning a nice golden brown.
If there was any justice on this planet, Al Gore would slip on an ice patch and do a face plant into a six-foot tall snowdrift, never to be seen again, and Punxatawney Phil would be slowly rotating over somebody’s barbecue grill, marinated in a mesquite sauce and turning a nice golden brown.
Pacejv about 14 years ago
Chim…chim…chimney….Ms. Poppins where’s the warming?
Michael Peterson Premium Member about 14 years ago
There was a Korean scientist who faked some cloning data, which proves that genetics is a lie. And I’ve known kids who didn’t look exactly like either parent, so that proves it, too.
How long before “Leave no child behind” begins to show some results in this country????
grapfhics about 14 years ago
If anyone thinks that the human populations and “urban sprawl” have no effect on our planet, that destroying forests and grasslands is benign then please let us see their proof. Show me their data, reports and presentations proving otherwise.
LibrarianInTraining about 14 years ago
Grap, we’re not saying mankind has no effect on the planet.
Just not as big a one as they’re making it out to be.
As my grandmother always said, “No story is ever any bigger than the news media wants it to be. It’s called ‘crisis management’. They create a ‘crisis’, then they manage it.”
Everyone should be responsible. Do their part. Recycle. Turn off lights. All that kinda stuff. I do it every day.
But I refuse to go into panic mode because it isn’t nearly as bad as everyone would have you think.
nilloc about 14 years ago
Climate change means change - higher highs and lower lows. Get over it and start doing something constructive. We don’t own the planit, we rent it from our children.
Mephistopheles about 14 years ago
I think we (all of us on this page) all can agree that we have a responsibility to be good stewards of the planet. I don’t think anyone thinks it’s OK to be wasteful of resources or that it’s OK to litter.
But where I and many of my friends draw the line is when the Global Warming Chicken Littles tell me that I have to completely change my lifestyle because a problem may exist down the road 100 years from now that they have no conclusive evidence that I am causing.
Get over it Eco-Freaks, most of us like to use Air conditioning in the summer. Many of us can’t use public transportation to get to work because it isn’t available. That doesn’t mean we are personally responsible for Global warming. I actually do a lot for the environment, I use a Geo-thermal system to manage the temperature in my house, I drive a relatively modest car (NOT A HYBRID), I shut off lights I’m not using, and I and my boyscout troop clean up Highways regularly.
Madman2001 about 14 years ago
Well said, Kevin. I do my part for a sustainable planet, but suddenly spending bazillions on speculative “science” is outright stupid.
Jaedabee Premium Member about 14 years ago
“EQUAL SACRIFICE!”
Sounds like socialism. ;)Libertarian1 about 14 years ago
“We don’t own the planet, we rent it from our children.”
I find it ironic that the exact same people who say that, have produced a national debt of $34,000 per person, to be paid for by our children. And that does not include either health care reform or climate change reform.
Even after we spend $trillions to control climate change, destroyed our economy and made us totally noncompetitive the Chinese and Indians will have done nothing and just out produced us.
Jaedabee Premium Member about 14 years ago
“From a Christian perspective embraced for love, it is liberty.”
The same “love” and “liberty” these so-called Christians deny everyone else? “I got my marriage benefits and economic protections, I’m going to write in specific clauses to deny you yours.”tbetz about 14 years ago
The claim that there is dishonest manipulation of data by legitimate client scientists is itself a fraud, perpetrated by lobbyists employed by the oil and coal industries and by the Russian FSB, descendant of the KGB.
Lisa Benson is clearly an ignorant tool of those perverse anti-American interests.
Get the facts:
http://bit.ly/6jDhPp
http://bit.ly/bWZ1kK
d_legendary1 about 14 years ago
<=======^^Is our children learning?
Magnaut about 14 years ago
CLIMATE CHANGE has become the Emperor’s new clothes…and they look the same EEEEK!
lonecat about 14 years ago
DrC – three cheers for science education! I mean this, I’m not being ironic in any way. How can we live in this world if we don’t know as much as possible about what this world is? And what we can learn is just amazing. People who don’t know some science just don’t realize what wonders they are missing. There is a grandeur to this view of life….
(But can I insert a little plug for the Humanities as well?)
Dtroutma about 14 years ago
Where’s the proof on WMDs? The “C” student followers challenge overwhelming amounts of data, and the variability of some models, but couldn’t come up with a single proven element that got us into war?
Lisa might have benefited from reading even one report all the way through, but that would be too complex for inquiring minds that not only don’t want to know, but don’t want anyone else to either.
jqmcd about 14 years ago
Most of the climate scientists I know have said that they’ve generally been inclined to minimize the sense of danger to the Earth that they get from the data. Most of them seem to think that it is actually worse than the media reports…
Jaedabee Premium Member about 14 years ago
My opinion is that we have to become more efficient, but that ”The Day After Tomorrow” isn’t right around the corner. It’s an unnecessary hysteria that puts people off especially when its leaders roll in the wealth. While subtlety isn’t the answer, either, legislation and action are good ideas… hysteria is not.
Jaedabee Premium Member about 14 years ago
scottfreitas: Cap & Trade is a Republican idea, sorry to break it to you.
They are merely against it because Obama is now for it, just like many of the ideas he has implemented into his plans.
nospam4me about 14 years ago
If there was any justice on this planet, Al Gore would slip on an ice patch and do a face plant into a six-foot tall snowdrift, never to be seen again, and Punxatawney Phil would be slowly rotating over somebody’s barbecue grill, marinated in a mesquite sauce and turning a nice golden brown.
nospam4me about 14 years ago
If there was any justice on this planet, Al Gore would slip on an ice patch and do a face plant into a six-foot tall snowdrift, never to be seen again, and Punxatawney Phil would be slowly rotating over somebody’s barbecue grill, marinated in a mesquite sauce and turning a nice golden brown.