Is this Lib “cartoonist” trying to suggest that without affirmative action black people are made to sit in the worst seats of the plane? I’m pretty sure there’s laws against that. Jones is thinking JUST because they’re black they DESERVE better seats? How about this…IF you have the money, whatever race you are, you can pay for first class seats, and if you DON’T have the money, whatever race you are, you have to settle for coach seats. NO one should be above or better than another based on their race….well, maybe except Libs…it’s the only way they think they’ll get ahead other than, you know….applying yourself and earning what you get in life.
You sound like a complete racist. Sarcasm back off now. :) Sounds like MLK can have his wish – judge them by content of their character, not the color of their skin.
@motivemagus – So I think you are saying that it is perfectly justifiable to deny admission to a Qualified White student in favor of an Unqualified Black student because there are pockets of racism out there. You even use the fact that people don’t see the world like you do as proof of racism existing.
By that argument – We would never be able to put preferential treatment aside. I was born into a country where I was blamed for Slavery and Jim Crow (though I never participated in either). Now you would blame my Children and my Grandchildren in perpetuity. It’s high time that African Americans be expected to stand on their feet and take responsibility for their own life’s choices.
Let me offer you another problem. When Universities prefer the lesser academically performing students to meet some arbitrary quota – They also lower the average performance of all the students. Meaning the University either dumbs down the course work i.e. cheapens the value of the diploma or allows those lesser performing students to fail out. This cheats the current students along with all the previous graduates. In my business we do judge you by grades and the University from which you earned them.
Your peers in college will either force you to work harder, think harder, and learn faster (In colleges focused on academics) or allow you to coast and get good grades for nothing (In colleges focused on complexion). Which school will better prepare you to compete in todays job market.
Oh and before you tell me there is value to diversity. Let me point out that China, Korea, and Japan are all doing very well with a homogeneous workforce.
My daughter is applying for Medical School right now. She is graduating from her Undergrad Magna Cum Laude. She is getting rejection letters from Medical schools. If she is getting them because there are better students out there I am disappointed but feel that is right. If she is getting them so the Medical School can admit more minorities I am furious.
@Nantucket – I aboslutely agree. My family attended/attends Public institutions where the legacy issue isn’t even a factor.
I want my kids going to school with the best qualified peers. Not the best qualified peers that meet a deans twisted notion of the right racial balance.
@Martens – You may be right about sexism but I’m going to assume the public institutions to which she has applied have a sex-blind policy. If she doesn’t get in this year we will chalk it up to needing to do even better on the MCATs.
Truly remarkable. Wow. You might want to read “Elizabeth and Hazel: Two Women of Little Rock”, by David Margolick; Yale UP, 2011. A complicated story told with great insight. It was 1958, by the way. Does the National Guard not count as Affirmative Action of a sort?
Don Winchester Premium Member about 10 years ago
Is this Lib “cartoonist” trying to suggest that without affirmative action black people are made to sit in the worst seats of the plane? I’m pretty sure there’s laws against that. Jones is thinking JUST because they’re black they DESERVE better seats? How about this…IF you have the money, whatever race you are, you can pay for first class seats, and if you DON’T have the money, whatever race you are, you have to settle for coach seats. NO one should be above or better than another based on their race….well, maybe except Libs…it’s the only way they think they’ll get ahead other than, you know….applying yourself and earning what you get in life.
viewer1 Premium Member about 10 years ago
You sound like a complete racist. Sarcasm back off now. :) Sounds like MLK can have his wish – judge them by content of their character, not the color of their skin.
Mephistopheles about 10 years ago
@motivemagus – So I think you are saying that it is perfectly justifiable to deny admission to a Qualified White student in favor of an Unqualified Black student because there are pockets of racism out there. You even use the fact that people don’t see the world like you do as proof of racism existing.
By that argument – We would never be able to put preferential treatment aside. I was born into a country where I was blamed for Slavery and Jim Crow (though I never participated in either). Now you would blame my Children and my Grandchildren in perpetuity. It’s high time that African Americans be expected to stand on their feet and take responsibility for their own life’s choices.
Let me offer you another problem. When Universities prefer the lesser academically performing students to meet some arbitrary quota – They also lower the average performance of all the students. Meaning the University either dumbs down the course work i.e. cheapens the value of the diploma or allows those lesser performing students to fail out. This cheats the current students along with all the previous graduates. In my business we do judge you by grades and the University from which you earned them.
Your peers in college will either force you to work harder, think harder, and learn faster (In colleges focused on academics) or allow you to coast and get good grades for nothing (In colleges focused on complexion). Which school will better prepare you to compete in todays job market.
Oh and before you tell me there is value to diversity. Let me point out that China, Korea, and Japan are all doing very well with a homogeneous workforce.
My daughter is applying for Medical School right now. She is graduating from her Undergrad Magna Cum Laude. She is getting rejection letters from Medical schools. If she is getting them because there are better students out there I am disappointed but feel that is right. If she is getting them so the Medical School can admit more minorities I am furious.
Mephistopheles about 10 years ago
@Nantucket – I aboslutely agree. My family attended/attends Public institutions where the legacy issue isn’t even a factor.
I want my kids going to school with the best qualified peers. Not the best qualified peers that meet a deans twisted notion of the right racial balance.
Mephistopheles about 10 years ago
@Martens – You may be right about sexism but I’m going to assume the public institutions to which she has applied have a sex-blind policy. If she doesn’t get in this year we will chalk it up to needing to do even better on the MCATs.
lonecat about 10 years ago
Truly remarkable. Wow. You might want to read “Elizabeth and Hazel: Two Women of Little Rock”, by David Margolick; Yale UP, 2011. A complicated story told with great insight. It was 1958, by the way. Does the National Guard not count as Affirmative Action of a sort?