That is only because it is available. Change the law to make the states rely on themselves. But I would like to know your source for information; or are you just throwing out stuff.
The visual aid provided by TheTrustedMechanic includes items that most people do not think of as welfare, such as veterans benefits (they were earned), Medicare, and Social Security (a return of taxes paid) The chart on this link (http://www.ijreview.com/2013/04/44766-conservatives-dominate-states-with-lowest-unemployment/) shows that conservative states tend to have lower unemployment rates. This link shows which political party gets the support of people who receive welfare and other types of assistance. (http://www.ijreview.com/2013/10/88205-guess-political-party-gets-support-welfare-recipients/) Maybe we need to define better what is in the transfers on the Mechanic’s chart before we say that red states are takers.
If the US stopped carrying the World on its back (we never asked you to do this!) and playing sheriff all over, it would have enough to feed its own population.
“Here is the deal. The red state and Tea Party people stop paying federal income tax.”I’d be OK with that as long as those states and their citizens receive absolutely nothing from the federal government, including federal disaster aid, military protection. You’re on your own in cases of natural disasters and foreign invasion. If you really want to see what your tax free Utopia looks like, head on over to Somalia and take a good look.
A: The biggest are the Social Security trust funds (16 percent), the Federal Reserve banks (12 percent), China (8 percent), Japan (7 percent) and mutual funds including money-market funds (6 percent)."
A U. S. government bond is a liability of the U. S. Treasury. But the same bond when sold to the Social Security Trust Fund (another part of the U.S. government) is an asset? Because of concerns about the value of the dollar, you’re right that China hasn’t been a big buyer of American bonds in the last few years . It probably has something to do with the 12% of the bonds you mention that are owned by the Federal Reserve, which has bought the bonds with dollars printed out of thin air.
According to this article Somilians are taxed. Right now it’s the government, instead of the warlords or the Islamic extremists as in the past. So it doesn’t sound like they were ever tax free. They just don’t get much for their money.
“I think, at times, that the conservatives would like to re-in-state slavery.”Slavery would make them somewhat accountable to their slaves. They want serfs, indentured servitude, tenant laborers and migrant workers.
ConserveGov about 10 years ago
The 5-year-olds are taking over.
Uncle Joe Premium Member about 10 years ago
Maybe the Red States wouldn’t need so much in Federal Aid if they realized the best way to avoid that, is paying people a living wage.
Mneedle about 10 years ago
That is only because it is available. Change the law to make the states rely on themselves. But I would like to know your source for information; or are you just throwing out stuff.
eugene57 about 10 years ago
Would (could) some of our right-wing conservatives please come up with a valid response, not the same old “stuff” which has been discredited.
warjoski Premium Member about 10 years ago
May I ask for the link you got the map from? It seems to differ from Trusted Mechanic’s, but I may not be seeing the info well enough. Thank you.
alphonso p quagmire about 10 years ago
The visual aid provided by TheTrustedMechanic includes items that most people do not think of as welfare, such as veterans benefits (they were earned), Medicare, and Social Security (a return of taxes paid) The chart on this link (http://www.ijreview.com/2013/04/44766-conservatives-dominate-states-with-lowest-unemployment/) shows that conservative states tend to have lower unemployment rates. This link shows which political party gets the support of people who receive welfare and other types of assistance. (http://www.ijreview.com/2013/10/88205-guess-political-party-gets-support-welfare-recipients/) Maybe we need to define better what is in the transfers on the Mechanic’s chart before we say that red states are takers.
CorosiveFrog Premium Member about 10 years ago
If the US stopped carrying the World on its back (we never asked you to do this!) and playing sheriff all over, it would have enough to feed its own population.
corzak about 10 years ago
“The red states take in more tax dollars than they pay out.”
Jason Allen about 10 years ago
“Here is the deal. The red state and Tea Party people stop paying federal income tax.”I’d be OK with that as long as those states and their citizens receive absolutely nothing from the federal government, including federal disaster aid, military protection. You’re on your own in cases of natural disasters and foreign invasion. If you really want to see what your tax free Utopia looks like, head on over to Somalia and take a good look.
alphonso p quagmire about 10 years ago
@TheTrustedMechanic
“Q: Who are the holders of U.S. debt?
A: The biggest are the Social Security trust funds (16 percent), the Federal Reserve banks (12 percent), China (8 percent), Japan (7 percent) and mutual funds including money-market funds (6 percent)."
A U. S. government bond is a liability of the U. S. Treasury. But the same bond when sold to the Social Security Trust Fund (another part of the U.S. government) is an asset? Because of concerns about the value of the dollar, you’re right that China hasn’t been a big buyer of American bonds in the last few years . It probably has something to do with the 12% of the bonds you mention that are owned by the Federal Reserve, which has bought the bonds with dollars printed out of thin air.
alphonso p quagmire about 10 years ago
@ Jase99
According to this article Somilians are taxed. Right now it’s the government, instead of the warlords or the Islamic extremists as in the past. So it doesn’t sound like they were ever tax free. They just don’t get much for their money.
http://www.news.com.au/world/tax-collecting-a-deadly-job-in-somalia-five-taxmen-killed-this-year/story-fndir2ev-1226687832457
eugene57 about 10 years ago
“I think, at times, that the conservatives would like to re-in-state slavery.”Slavery would make them somewhat accountable to their slaves. They want serfs, indentured servitude, tenant laborers and migrant workers.
eugene57 about 10 years ago
It was not conservatives that ended slavery.Where is “YOUR” real world?