Ironically the cartoon couldn’t be further from the truth. LaPierre pretty much engineered his way through intimidating enough democrats to block the gun control bill, or so it appears. Democrats from conservative states are covering their butts for the next election and the Republicans are in full stupid mode calling for a filibuster.
I’m no fan of prohibition as I have stated repeatedly, but I totally support a thorough background check system. Oh well, politics and a leaderless government stumbles along, failing their citizens on another important issue.
ATF has been without a director for six years. “The ATF has been without a director since the position was first required to be confirmed by the Senate in 2006. President George W. Bush’s first nominee, Michael J. Sullivan, was blocked by three Republican senators who accused Sullivan of not doing enough to end the ATF’s “overly burdensome regulatory policies” on gun owners.”……….http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-02-01/world/36682602_1_atf-operation-andrew-traver-fast-and-furious
Isn’t it the case that legitimate hunters use a soft pointed bullet and prefer a bolt action?Doesn’t the semi-auto need a hard point, military bullet to feed properly?
After the attack yesterday at a college campus without guns, will our government now take away all knives and cutters so we go back to eating with our fingers so no one gets hurt?I remember reading, a long time ago, that forks were also dangerous tools.
Cars, motor scooters, and in some jurisdictions bicycles, are more closely licensed, registered, and regulated, than guns, that is the stupidity in failing to recognize part ONE of the problem. Part two is the limit on GOVERNMENT to maintain records (24 hours) that doesn’t apply to the industry selling the weapons. Part THREE is the fact that “assault rifles” AND “insane people” are the least part of the problem, that registration, and regulation of LEGAL possession could resolve. Also high capacity CONCEALABLE weapons are killing far more people than rifles, or even shotguns, and are also most used in criminal activities, like bank or 7/11 robberies.
Regulation does NOT equal “confiscation” despite what the NRA says. How many cars are seized every year from driveways? Also, how many states DO require safety checks of vehicles to make sure they’re safe to be on the road, and protect the citizenry at large?
So am I a criminal, semi-insane, or a member of the NRA? Let’s see… I own guns legally, so I am not a criminal. I’ve been checked out psychologically and specifically told that I am sane. While I am a member of the Second Amendment Foundation, I am not one of the NRA.
And I will have to repeat until I am blue in the face: WE ALREADY HAVE BACKGROUND CHECKS. The system is called NICS and has been active since about 1998.
Salem, Oregon, and tons of cities across the country require bike registration. Just google “bicycle registration” and find lots of links to places that require registration. Decades ago had to register my bike in Whittier, California, and folks still do.
I never said individuals did not have that right. I said the federal government still has the right to regulate what arms can be owned. The SCOTUS ruled that the National Guard falls under the armed forces of the US when necessarily called into duty for the national defense. The only ruling on weapons is from 1939, when they did rule that militia weapons could be owned, but the fact that they made a ruling indicates that they set a precedent for the federal government’s right to decide what weapons could be owned. Also, they have ruled several times that the Constitution of the US applies only to the federal government, that the states can be overruled when their laws are in conflict.The court has also determined in the past which citizens were not allowed to own weapons. It was upheld until 1908 that freed slaves did not have the right to bear arms, but more recently has ruled that former military personnel of once hostile nations could have their second amendment rights suspended or not grannted at all, even if they became citizens. The fact that convicted criminals can be prevented from owning guns after serving their due sentence is further proof that the court and federal government do have a say on limitations that can be placed on the second amendment rights of US citizens. In other words, if the federal government wants to decide what type of weapons can be owned, how many can be owned, and who can own them, they have that power, as the second amendment itself does not specifically prevent it from doing so.
Mickey 13 about 11 years ago
Ironically the cartoon couldn’t be further from the truth. LaPierre pretty much engineered his way through intimidating enough democrats to block the gun control bill, or so it appears. Democrats from conservative states are covering their butts for the next election and the Republicans are in full stupid mode calling for a filibuster.
I’m no fan of prohibition as I have stated repeatedly, but I totally support a thorough background check system. Oh well, politics and a leaderless government stumbles along, failing their citizens on another important issue.
feverjr Premium Member about 11 years ago
ATF has been without a director for six years. “The ATF has been without a director since the position was first required to be confirmed by the Senate in 2006. President George W. Bush’s first nominee, Michael J. Sullivan, was blocked by three Republican senators who accused Sullivan of not doing enough to end the ATF’s “overly burdensome regulatory policies” on gun owners.”……….http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-02-01/world/36682602_1_atf-operation-andrew-traver-fast-and-furious
sappha58 about 11 years ago
Another good article on the subject: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/02/bruce-w-krafft/the-problem-with-universal-background-checks-part-1/
rockngolfer about 11 years ago
40% of gun sales are without background checks at gun shows, private sales,, and straw purchases.You RWNJs live in a fact free universe.
Chillbilly about 11 years ago
“Let’s not regulate guns because bad people have them.”
larryrhoades about 11 years ago
Isn’t it the case that legitimate hunters use a soft pointed bullet and prefer a bolt action?Doesn’t the semi-auto need a hard point, military bullet to feed properly?
nanellen about 11 years ago
After the attack yesterday at a college campus without guns, will our government now take away all knives and cutters so we go back to eating with our fingers so no one gets hurt?I remember reading, a long time ago, that forks were also dangerous tools.
Dtroutma about 11 years ago
Cars, motor scooters, and in some jurisdictions bicycles, are more closely licensed, registered, and regulated, than guns, that is the stupidity in failing to recognize part ONE of the problem. Part two is the limit on GOVERNMENT to maintain records (24 hours) that doesn’t apply to the industry selling the weapons. Part THREE is the fact that “assault rifles” AND “insane people” are the least part of the problem, that registration, and regulation of LEGAL possession could resolve. Also high capacity CONCEALABLE weapons are killing far more people than rifles, or even shotguns, and are also most used in criminal activities, like bank or 7/11 robberies.
Regulation does NOT equal “confiscation” despite what the NRA says. How many cars are seized every year from driveways? Also, how many states DO require safety checks of vehicles to make sure they’re safe to be on the road, and protect the citizenry at large?
sappha58 about 11 years ago
So am I a criminal, semi-insane, or a member of the NRA? Let’s see… I own guns legally, so I am not a criminal. I’ve been checked out psychologically and specifically told that I am sane. While I am a member of the Second Amendment Foundation, I am not one of the NRA.
And I will have to repeat until I am blue in the face: WE ALREADY HAVE BACKGROUND CHECKS. The system is called NICS and has been active since about 1998.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiIGUFhPfO8
Dtroutma about 11 years ago
Salem, Oregon, and tons of cities across the country require bike registration. Just google “bicycle registration” and find lots of links to places that require registration. Decades ago had to register my bike in Whittier, California, and folks still do.
ossiningaling about 11 years ago
Famous last words.
lonecat about 11 years ago
A polite society is a society where it’s safe to have guns. The US is not a polite society. As DrC might say, you guys are freakin’ nuts.
Fourcrows about 11 years ago
I never said individuals did not have that right. I said the federal government still has the right to regulate what arms can be owned. The SCOTUS ruled that the National Guard falls under the armed forces of the US when necessarily called into duty for the national defense. The only ruling on weapons is from 1939, when they did rule that militia weapons could be owned, but the fact that they made a ruling indicates that they set a precedent for the federal government’s right to decide what weapons could be owned. Also, they have ruled several times that the Constitution of the US applies only to the federal government, that the states can be overruled when their laws are in conflict.The court has also determined in the past which citizens were not allowed to own weapons. It was upheld until 1908 that freed slaves did not have the right to bear arms, but more recently has ruled that former military personnel of once hostile nations could have their second amendment rights suspended or not grannted at all, even if they became citizens. The fact that convicted criminals can be prevented from owning guns after serving their due sentence is further proof that the court and federal government do have a say on limitations that can be placed on the second amendment rights of US citizens. In other words, if the federal government wants to decide what type of weapons can be owned, how many can be owned, and who can own them, they have that power, as the second amendment itself does not specifically prevent it from doing so.