Might make for good drill instructors, but then again my knowledge of military training comes solely from Full Metal Jacket and An Officer and a Gentleman.
Yeah,….I recognize these guys from military school circa mid to late sixties. “Old Cadets” (having been in school for a year), hazing “New Cadets”, or as they were called, “Rats”. It only last 1 year, then you become an old cadet. And the circle repeats. Charming, it is the basis for all military training.
Bil, hearken back to those days of yesteryear – to the days of Woody Hayes, Frank Kush, Bobby Knight, and even the “sainted” Bear Bryant. Verbal and sometimes physical abuse was accepted and tolerated in sports and ( much as it pains me to agree with Guard SGT on anything ), in the military. Neither my coaches nor my D.I.‘s in the Army were warm and fuzzy types. Unlike today, they were not restricted and definitely, not politically correct. They were there to train young men and save lives. In truth, I probably would go to jail or be sued for verbal or physical abuse today, for the way I operated as a narcotics detective and then a juvenile officer back in the early 70’s. Times have changed and fortunately we have changed, as well. But, when I was under extreme combat conditions, the screaming epithets from good old Sgt. Gutman rang in my memory and did, on more than one occasion, save my bacon and the lives of my guys, so I never had to " pay the butcher bill" !
On that I can agree. But remember, although you are a bit younger than I am, we came out of a different era, where a cuff across the ear by a teacher ( nuns in my case ) or a parent or grandparent,coach or even the beat cop was to be expected if you crossed the line. Yet we respected, loved and even feared these grown ups. Fear was a good motivator but much more important was the love and respect that these mentors imbued in us.BTW I only disagree with you on certain political viewpoints, not on what experience has taught us both.
James Hopkins about 11 years ago
Might make for good drill instructors, but then again my knowledge of military training comes solely from Full Metal Jacket and An Officer and a Gentleman.
Bill Hinds creator about 11 years ago
I thought Walmart seemed less friendly lately. How about those professional people shovers in the Japanese train stations–do they still have those?
sarah413 Premium Member about 11 years ago
Read where Rice is now coaching a girls youth basketball team.
Tetonbil Premium Member about 11 years ago
Yeah,….I recognize these guys from military school circa mid to late sixties. “Old Cadets” (having been in school for a year), hazing “New Cadets”, or as they were called, “Rats”. It only last 1 year, then you become an old cadet. And the circle repeats. Charming, it is the basis for all military training.
James Hopkins about 11 years ago
How true that is. And thank you for your service!
Godfreydaniel about 11 years ago
I’ve been waiting for Tank to tackle this one! I thought it was hilarious.
Paul Adrian Jr Premium Member about 11 years ago
If they’re picking on Ed Crankshaft they could have their hands full!
Linguist about 11 years ago
Bil, hearken back to those days of yesteryear – to the days of Woody Hayes, Frank Kush, Bobby Knight, and even the “sainted” Bear Bryant. Verbal and sometimes physical abuse was accepted and tolerated in sports and ( much as it pains me to agree with Guard SGT on anything ), in the military. Neither my coaches nor my D.I.‘s in the Army were warm and fuzzy types. Unlike today, they were not restricted and definitely, not politically correct. They were there to train young men and save lives. In truth, I probably would go to jail or be sued for verbal or physical abuse today, for the way I operated as a narcotics detective and then a juvenile officer back in the early 70’s. Times have changed and fortunately we have changed, as well. But, when I was under extreme combat conditions, the screaming epithets from good old Sgt. Gutman rang in my memory and did, on more than one occasion, save my bacon and the lives of my guys, so I never had to " pay the butcher bill" !
Linguist about 11 years ago
On that I can agree. But remember, although you are a bit younger than I am, we came out of a different era, where a cuff across the ear by a teacher ( nuns in my case ) or a parent or grandparent,coach or even the beat cop was to be expected if you crossed the line. Yet we respected, loved and even feared these grown ups. Fear was a good motivator but much more important was the love and respect that these mentors imbued in us.BTW I only disagree with you on certain political viewpoints, not on what experience has taught us both.