Moten – solid ice… and you think humanity will survive those turns? It is what the earth does, and wipes out masses of spices in turn. …makes me think of Bill Cosby’s classic roller coaster routine. “We’re gonna run out’a tracks!”
This is all very well but accomplishes nothing. It’s like one side sings the “Llama Song” while the other sings “Modern Major-General”. Both are momentarily charming and amusing but eventually…
The Defense Department is very concerned about Global Warming. They have a group that’s been analyzing it and it’s geo-political ramifications for a number of years now. Some climatologists that in the past have opposed the notion of global warming occurring now have, based on their own research, embraced the idea, and the idea that this one is greatly influenced by man’s actions. It’s really two separate questions – first, is it occurring, and the overwhelming evidence is yes, and that it will have consequences. The second, is mankind causing or at least contributing significantly to this. Of all the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, the ones that are only generated naturally have not been increasing, but the ones that mankind makes by it’s own actions is growing by leaps and bounds. The arguments should be about the best solutions, and opportunities.
1. Is the climate changing? Yes2. Are humans partially responsible? Probably3. Are carbon credits and taxes the way to solve the problem? No. The only purpose that carbon credits serve is to make Al Gore richer. Taxes always wind up in the general fund. Private industry should be looking into fusion and safer fission power.
Dick Cheney on Terrorism: “Even if there’s just a 1 percent chance of the unimaginable coming due, act as if it is a certainty.”
Using that same logic, even if there’s only a 1% chance that global warming is real, because the consequences would be so disastrous, shouldn’t we act as if it’s a certainty?
People are giving the conspiracies and the rich too much credit. Plans like this take clear communication. When ten friends can’t pass a simple story between each other without it changing how can you expect a large group of people around the world to pull this off? It goes against human nature.
Yes, the climate does change naturally….over eons. The climate change they are talking about is accelerated due to mankind. This isn’t hard to figure out. The gas coming out of your car has been used by people to commit suicide. How can you possibly thing that millions of cars pumping out the same gas all over the world for several decades isn’t going to be a problem?
Now Experts aren’t good enough. Haven’t you heard – you can no longer trust peer-reviewed studies (as my ‘the earth never changes’ friends/relatives have taken to saying)
“figure out a way to mitigate the more frequent extreme weather events.” Yeah, but there’s no money in that. Gore made millions from hysteria, that’s where the bucks are.
People fear change more than they fear death. Weird. To say that it’s possible to change the climate with your actions means you have to acknowledge that change happens. It also requires (gasp) responsibility.To say it happens mean you might have to do something different, in other words, change.That scares people so badly they’d rather deny the heck out of it. Just pretend its too complicated to understand, ignore any and all proofs that don’t fit your personal preference and hide from any other arguments by applying ad hoc arguments generously and with out bothering to even see if they fit. Heaven forbid you actually examine a problem honestly. That might require… Change.
Global cooling? Liberals solution: MOAR GOVERNMENT. Global warming? Liberals solution: MOAR GOVERNMENT! too much government? Liberals solution: MOAR GOVERNMENT!
benaben about 10 years ago
Moten – solid ice… and you think humanity will survive those turns? It is what the earth does, and wipes out masses of spices in turn. …makes me think of Bill Cosby’s classic roller coaster routine. “We’re gonna run out’a tracks!”
Radical-Knight about 10 years ago
This is all very well but accomplishes nothing. It’s like one side sings the “Llama Song” while the other sings “Modern Major-General”. Both are momentarily charming and amusing but eventually…
Frederick L Berg Jr about 10 years ago
The Defense Department is very concerned about Global Warming. They have a group that’s been analyzing it and it’s geo-political ramifications for a number of years now. Some climatologists that in the past have opposed the notion of global warming occurring now have, based on their own research, embraced the idea, and the idea that this one is greatly influenced by man’s actions. It’s really two separate questions – first, is it occurring, and the overwhelming evidence is yes, and that it will have consequences. The second, is mankind causing or at least contributing significantly to this. Of all the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, the ones that are only generated naturally have not been increasing, but the ones that mankind makes by it’s own actions is growing by leaps and bounds. The arguments should be about the best solutions, and opportunities.
benaben about 10 years ago
Like Bill Cosby’s roller coaster routine: “Prepare to die! Prepare to die!…”
catzilla23 about 10 years ago
1. Is the climate changing? Yes2. Are humans partially responsible? Probably3. Are carbon credits and taxes the way to solve the problem? No. The only purpose that carbon credits serve is to make Al Gore richer. Taxes always wind up in the general fund. Private industry should be looking into fusion and safer fission power.
Solaricious Premium Member about 10 years ago
Dick Cheney on Terrorism: “Even if there’s just a 1 percent chance of the unimaginable coming due, act as if it is a certainty.”
Using that same logic, even if there’s only a 1% chance that global warming is real, because the consequences would be so disastrous, shouldn’t we act as if it’s a certainty?
tengu99 about 10 years ago
People are giving the conspiracies and the rich too much credit. Plans like this take clear communication. When ten friends can’t pass a simple story between each other without it changing how can you expect a large group of people around the world to pull this off? It goes against human nature.
tengu99 about 10 years ago
Yes, the climate does change naturally….over eons. The climate change they are talking about is accelerated due to mankind. This isn’t hard to figure out. The gas coming out of your car has been used by people to commit suicide. How can you possibly thing that millions of cars pumping out the same gas all over the world for several decades isn’t going to be a problem?
Timothy Madigan Premium Member about 10 years ago
Yes, the Earth warms and cools – so why are the imbecilic Tea Party crowd denying it happens or ever happens?
Maybe they’re stuck on the “Earth is only 6,000 years old” fantasy and thus can’t understand this cycle.
Timothy Madigan Premium Member about 10 years ago
Now Experts aren’t good enough. Haven’t you heard – you can no longer trust peer-reviewed studies (as my ‘the earth never changes’ friends/relatives have taken to saying)
dzw3030 about 10 years ago
“figure out a way to mitigate the more frequent extreme weather events.” Yeah, but there’s no money in that. Gore made millions from hysteria, that’s where the bucks are.
Daniel Quilp about 10 years ago
Can any one of you please cite the sources of your statements?
Rista about 10 years ago
People fear change more than they fear death. Weird. To say that it’s possible to change the climate with your actions means you have to acknowledge that change happens. It also requires (gasp) responsibility.To say it happens mean you might have to do something different, in other words, change.That scares people so badly they’d rather deny the heck out of it. Just pretend its too complicated to understand, ignore any and all proofs that don’t fit your personal preference and hide from any other arguments by applying ad hoc arguments generously and with out bothering to even see if they fit. Heaven forbid you actually examine a problem honestly. That might require… Change.
Stingo Smith about 10 years ago
Global cooling? Liberals solution: MOAR GOVERNMENT. Global warming? Liberals solution: MOAR GOVERNMENT! too much government? Liberals solution: MOAR GOVERNMENT!