And that is your major flaw eeyore, you refuse to see that both parties have their hand in this- either way, the only ones that should be entitled are those who earned the benefit by working (such as the elderly) not those who refuse to live within their means (such as the welfare suckers).
Democratic economic plan: destroy capitalism, put more people on government payrolls, expand welfare, food-stamps and other like programs, to be payed for by the $$ confiscated from capitalists . . . . . problem is, as it has been ascertained time and again, you eventually run out of the other peoples’ money..With 47% no paying any Federal Income Taxes – we are very close to the point of failure.
Every so-called socialist government in Europe is doing better than America in employment, health, and business climate. This 30 year experiment in distributing income upwards is not going well, and it’s time to try fairness.
Buddy, this isn’t Keynesian economics, this is the result of Reaganonomics. The rich are getting tricher, the poor and middle class are getting screwed.
“And yes, I am in well paid full-time hi-tech professional employment.”
Thank you for making my point. It takes a lot more money to live well in Europe.’If you are however suggesting that your living standard in Europe is higher than it would be in the US in the same position – than you are simply lying. It is no accident that many of the best European minds are in the US, and were it not for our moronic immigration policies, there would be a great deal more of them here. When was the last time that Europe brought out some new basic technology? Not much since Wankel engine.
“…Actually, I am curious as to your perception of US employment law. Tell me, do you think that you could be fired:1. in order to hire someone else at a lower wage ? 2. for reporting internal wrongdoing by another employee ?3. because your company MISTAKENLY thinks that you have committed a wrongdoing?4. out of personal dislike of you by your manager(s)?”The answer: Yes to all. Here in the US, unless represented by a Union, you can be terminated for any reason. It’s called At-Will employment. However, if you are terminated for discrimanatory reasons (age, gender, orientation, race, etc) you can pursue for wrongful termination. I have no illusions that I am immune to termination. That’s why I bust my rump to do the best job I can do. I make myself invaluable. Compare that to a nut-turner at an auto-plant and you will find that is a very easily-replaceable job. A trained monkey can put a nut on a bolt. That’s why private-sector unions are so pushy in those arenas, because you can’t really make yourself invaluable with such a simple task as your only assigned duty. Now, let’s compare your benefits. Europeans have notoriously lush benefits. But Europeans also have notoriously poor work ethics and historical productivity levels. How can you get anything done if you’re only working 32 hours a week? I fancy the guess that companies are still investing in Europe is because corporate tax levels are still lower than the US, which is sad. But I guess you’re looking at past instances. If your social model worked, why is EU having such a monetary problem with debt? Greece is getting crushed under its own debt, and the handouts that are going to its populace are threatening to bankrupt the country. Italy, Spain, Protugal, Ireland… all of these follow the same social structure where all workers are granted these amazing priviledges from cradle to grave. But the tax burden is too high to support such a structure. That’s why now we’re seeing the structures collapsing. Am I saying that we have the perfect system here in the US? Absolutely not. But Europeanism is not our nature, nor is it right for our country, especially when we are seeing what’s happening across the Atlantic. And us trending that way is not going to solve our monetary woes. The problem is that people are seeing us digging a hole deeper and deeper with our debt load, and the “geniouses” (And I use that term EXTREMELY loosely) in our federal government seem to think that digging the hole deeper is the solution to our problem. That’s been the monetary practice of both Europe and America for decades, and it’s wrong regardless of who’s doing it. The first step to getting out of a hole is to stop digging it deeper. Kenysian (sp?) theory Does Not Work. It’s been tried, numerous times, and it hasn’t worked in any of those times. It’s time to think up something new.There can’t be any sacred cows, and fundamental change needs to be made. We can’t villianize those very people that provide the investment capital for businesses, just like we can’t villianize the workers who are dutifully paying their taxes. We need to find a new system that doesn’t screw one group over in favor of another group, regardless of who those groups are. But the first step is to stop making the blasted hole deeper.
aguirra3 over 12 years ago
And that is your major flaw eeyore, you refuse to see that both parties have their hand in this- either way, the only ones that should be entitled are those who earned the benefit by working (such as the elderly) not those who refuse to live within their means (such as the welfare suckers).
petergrt over 12 years ago
Democratic economic plan: destroy capitalism, put more people on government payrolls, expand welfare, food-stamps and other like programs, to be payed for by the $$ confiscated from capitalists . . . . . problem is, as it has been ascertained time and again, you eventually run out of the other peoples’ money..With 47% no paying any Federal Income Taxes – we are very close to the point of failure.
tcity over 12 years ago
“1 in 7 nowadays is on food stamps and about 46 million live under the pverty line” still waiting for it to trickle down.
d_legendary1 over 12 years ago
What Keynesian experiment? We’ve been following Reaganomics and Clintonomics for 30+ years. Seems to me like that’s the real failure.
d_legendary1 over 12 years ago
I don’t remember people calling Lindon B. Johnson, Dwight Eisenhower or Jimmy Carter the food stamp president.
ARodney over 12 years ago
Every so-called socialist government in Europe is doing better than America in employment, health, and business climate. This 30 year experiment in distributing income upwards is not going well, and it’s time to try fairness.
PlainBill over 12 years ago
Buddy, this isn’t Keynesian economics, this is the result of Reaganonomics. The rich are getting tricher, the poor and middle class are getting screwed.
Dtroutma over 12 years ago
LImbaugh really has invaded Ramirez’ brain and taken over his pen.
Yammo Premium Member over 12 years ago
“Hope” to “change” that in Nov 2012.
petergrt over 12 years ago
“And yes, I am in well paid full-time hi-tech professional employment.”
Thank you for making my point. It takes a lot more money to live well in Europe.’If you are however suggesting that your living standard in Europe is higher than it would be in the US in the same position – than you are simply lying. It is no accident that many of the best European minds are in the US, and were it not for our moronic immigration policies, there would be a great deal more of them here. When was the last time that Europe brought out some new basic technology? Not much since Wankel engine.
d_legendary1 over 12 years ago
We already know he ain’t white.
Wraithkin over 12 years ago
“…Actually, I am curious as to your perception of US employment law. Tell me, do you think that you could be fired:1. in order to hire someone else at a lower wage ? 2. for reporting internal wrongdoing by another employee ?3. because your company MISTAKENLY thinks that you have committed a wrongdoing?4. out of personal dislike of you by your manager(s)?”The answer: Yes to all. Here in the US, unless represented by a Union, you can be terminated for any reason. It’s called At-Will employment. However, if you are terminated for discrimanatory reasons (age, gender, orientation, race, etc) you can pursue for wrongful termination. I have no illusions that I am immune to termination. That’s why I bust my rump to do the best job I can do. I make myself invaluable. Compare that to a nut-turner at an auto-plant and you will find that is a very easily-replaceable job. A trained monkey can put a nut on a bolt. That’s why private-sector unions are so pushy in those arenas, because you can’t really make yourself invaluable with such a simple task as your only assigned duty. Now, let’s compare your benefits. Europeans have notoriously lush benefits. But Europeans also have notoriously poor work ethics and historical productivity levels. How can you get anything done if you’re only working 32 hours a week? I fancy the guess that companies are still investing in Europe is because corporate tax levels are still lower than the US, which is sad. But I guess you’re looking at past instances. If your social model worked, why is EU having such a monetary problem with debt? Greece is getting crushed under its own debt, and the handouts that are going to its populace are threatening to bankrupt the country. Italy, Spain, Protugal, Ireland… all of these follow the same social structure where all workers are granted these amazing priviledges from cradle to grave. But the tax burden is too high to support such a structure. That’s why now we’re seeing the structures collapsing. Am I saying that we have the perfect system here in the US? Absolutely not. But Europeanism is not our nature, nor is it right for our country, especially when we are seeing what’s happening across the Atlantic. And us trending that way is not going to solve our monetary woes. The problem is that people are seeing us digging a hole deeper and deeper with our debt load, and the “geniouses” (And I use that term EXTREMELY loosely) in our federal government seem to think that digging the hole deeper is the solution to our problem. That’s been the monetary practice of both Europe and America for decades, and it’s wrong regardless of who’s doing it. The first step to getting out of a hole is to stop digging it deeper. Kenysian (sp?) theory Does Not Work. It’s been tried, numerous times, and it hasn’t worked in any of those times. It’s time to think up something new.There can’t be any sacred cows, and fundamental change needs to be made. We can’t villianize those very people that provide the investment capital for businesses, just like we can’t villianize the workers who are dutifully paying their taxes. We need to find a new system that doesn’t screw one group over in favor of another group, regardless of who those groups are. But the first step is to stop making the blasted hole deeper.