Tom Toles for November 07, 2008

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    MaryWorth Premium Member over 15 years ago

    That takes care of the wide stanch of Larry Craig’s…

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    etighe Premium Member over 15 years ago

    Isn’t anything sacred anymore? The institution of marriage and family is was endowed to us by our Creator…who are we as humans to alter that…next thing, we’ll be marrying our pets…

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    serrano24  over 15 years ago

    I hope these words are still sacred: “they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

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    alife  over 15 years ago

    I’m a native of CA. There’s money that can be made if CA let folks marry! Another gold rush gone, sigh…

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    tukla_ratte  over 15 years ago

    etighe, your ignorance of the history and practice of marriage, both civil and religious, is astounding. Your invocation of the nonsensical “marry our pets” indicates you don’t have the slightest idea how contract law even works. Educate yourself if you don’t wish to continue looking like a buffoon.

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    Herbabee  over 15 years ago

    Sooky Rottweiler, will you marry me? ;-)

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    lalas  over 15 years ago

    oh Serrano… those are just words. The founding fathers CLEARLY didn’t mean gay people. Read the fine print. :-P

    Etighe – This is not Biblevania… it is America where people are meant to be FREE! The discussion is to allow HUMAN BEINGS to marry, it has not nor will ever be about letting people molest children or animals.

    I wonder how this comes into play: Amendment 9 - Construction of Constitution. – The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

    Seems to me the only Amendment that essentially curtails a liberty is the 18th, which was repealed.

    I don’t think the Constitution is meant to be the receptacle of your bigotry, nor to create second class citizens.

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    CorosiveFrog Premium Member over 15 years ago

    Sooky Rottweiler says: I date Beebee!

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    curiosity1  over 15 years ago

    etighe - I do not believe in your Creator. My creator made me gay, and gave me love. You’ve never met me, so how are you harmed by that, and the fact that I am indeed married?

    Should we all be forced to live by your Church’s rules? Or should you be entitled to practice your religion in peace? Funny that the peaceable practice of religion was a core reason why people came to America to begin with. Their home governments persecuted them for their belief.

    Liberty does not mean freedom from offense. My marriage may offend you, but it causes you no direct harm. Your church offends me, but I firmly believe in your right to practice your faith.

    Give me the same opportunity to pursue Life, Liberty and Happiness that I am sure you cherish. And then go to your church and pray for my soul if you feel a need to. Or curse me if you wish, but leave me ALONE and GO AWAY.

    Oh yeah…and as to your Creator….who were Adam and Eve’s grandchildren’s parents? Hrmmm…? So much for Biblical family values.

    To the other voices on this thread. Thank you all for holding up candles in the dark. It means a lot to me. An thank you to Tom Toles for shining a scorching light on the choices made by Californians this week.

    off the soapbox, yet again - my legs are getting a good workout though *
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    asjmb  over 15 years ago

    We in Florida passed an equally insidious amendment prohibiting gay marriage. The Baptist (and to a lesser extent Catholic) church was instrumental in authoring & pimping the bill. Since they thumpers have decided to so overtly stick their noses, I say we tax the church! Oh, and etighe, get some help, ‘cause, d@mn, you crazy.

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    alife  over 15 years ago

    curiosity1 It’s part of my DNA, Can’t stop even if I wanted to. I wanted to know more about the name Seth, one of my brothers works with someone named Seth My brother was saying Adam & Eve had Seven children! I only see 3 males for now. But did see this! Seth means seven, so I guess there were 2 females between the males. Maybe We are all an illusion!! FRIZZLE º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º FRAPHAT º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º FRIZZLE º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º ZAP º¤ø,¸¸ ¨¨*:·T·:¨¨:·R·:¨¨:.A·:¨¨:·I:¨¨:·L:¨¨S:*¨¨ ¨¨*:·C·:¨¨:·O·:¨¨:.L·:¨¨:·O:¨¨:·R:¨¨S:*¨¨ http://www.answers.com/topic/pseudepigrapha

    http://www.answers.com/topic/adam-and-eve Eve bears two sons, Cain and Abel, a third son named Seth

    You got me looking at All kindas’ stuff I’m basically an Asexual!! A LOT easier That way! Don’t Like like ANYONE “hanging” all over ANYONE One can always find stuff to support whatever they seem to believe!

    WHATEVER MEN Decided all kinda’s crap. NOTHING last forever!! It difficult for me to believe God, Jesus, seems that people look to him instead of “our” father. Something BIGGER than “us” My Native American blood is boiling now, center, center, Asian influence Like I’ve been says We’re ALL 50th cousins’ - MOM PLAY NICE! - DAD Dang… Like to keep it short. OH Well!

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    dhleaky  over 15 years ago

    Bill Maher nailed it with: “Religion warps Thinking!”

    YUP, and warps a lot more.

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    alife  over 15 years ago

    HEAVY SIGH… Wish you weren’t right Gweedo, Sigh………

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    raycity  over 15 years ago

    etighe,Nothing like a good paw job

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    lesmcf  over 15 years ago

    It’s already spread to the fundamentalist State I live in - South Carolina. Hey, we’ve still got sunday Blue Laws here. They still have over fifty percent divorce rates,however, but consider that OK. So much for the “sanctity of marriage” baloney.

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