That’s right, it all has to do with the dreaded left leaning media, and nothing to do with the ridiculousness of propping up warlords and corrupt, inept, not really in control governments. Occupation never works, especially when the country is so absolutely alien to us that we don’t even know what the he// they are thinking.
Someday the classified reports from the ’80s will be available, about how we (the US CIA and our ‘off-the-shelf enterprises’) created the Mujahadeen (sp?) by emptying MidEast jails, to play against the Russians.
But then, I also like “That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history.” –Aldous Huxley
Bush-Cheney called off the search for bin Laden so he could have his own private, illegal war in Iraq. Bring the troops home, and leave all the public contractors. Maybe the Heroin traffickers will pay the $189 Million per year.
Your logic consistently confuses me. Both the left and the media strongly opposed Bush and Iraq. The public was turned off by the war. As it is slowly ending the media abandoned coverage so as not to allow Bush to claim victory.
The general public doesn’t understand differences between Iraq and Afghanistan. Our going into Vietnam, staying in Iraq, and doubling down in Afghanistan were all an error in judgment. I don’t know why Obama did it, I oppose it.
The media most definitely did not oppose the Bush administration going into Iraq. That rewrite of history flies in the face of known facts, not the least of which was the NYT trumpeting the administration’s claims later proved to be false.
Many media have now acknowledged that, as a whole, it failed to investigate or question claim’s from the government, in essence abdicating its role as a “watchdog.”
“the media abandoned coverage so as not to allow Bush to claim victory.”
another falsehood … Bush claimed victory, remember? The media didn’t abandon coverage either … the war went on and on and on with little discernible change. We’re still there …. it’s time to leave.
How arrogant to claim the public can’t discern the difference between Iraq and Afghanistan. The war in Iraq was sold as a pre-emptive war, and the nebulous connection once claimed to 9/11 has now proved false.
The push to get bin Laden and al Qaida was pushed aside. If there is a war on terrorists, Afghanistan is still the locale where they base and train.
«Thanks to the left leaning media.» In the United States ?!! One can’t help wondering in which country signature «oldlegodad» lives (others might rather ask what he’s smoking)….
foxglove16 over 14 years ago
That’s right, it all has to do with the dreaded left leaning media, and nothing to do with the ridiculousness of propping up warlords and corrupt, inept, not really in control governments. Occupation never works, especially when the country is so absolutely alien to us that we don’t even know what the he// they are thinking.
pbarnrob over 14 years ago
Someday the classified reports from the ’80s will be available, about how we (the US CIA and our ‘off-the-shelf enterprises’) created the Mujahadeen (sp?) by emptying MidEast jails, to play against the Russians.
But then, I also like “That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history.” –Aldous Huxley
hastynote Premium Member over 14 years ago
Bush-Cheney called off the search for bin Laden so he could have his own private, illegal war in Iraq. Bring the troops home, and leave all the public contractors. Maybe the Heroin traffickers will pay the $189 Million per year.
GNWachs over 14 years ago
So with all then logic expressed above why is Obama doubling down in Afghanistan? It is now his war.
GNWachs over 14 years ago
@RV
Your logic consistently confuses me. Both the left and the media strongly opposed Bush and Iraq. The public was turned off by the war. As it is slowly ending the media abandoned coverage so as not to allow Bush to claim victory.
The general public doesn’t understand differences between Iraq and Afghanistan. Our going into Vietnam, staying in Iraq, and doubling down in Afghanistan were all an error in judgment. I don’t know why Obama did it, I oppose it.
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
The media most definitely did not oppose the Bush administration going into Iraq. That rewrite of history flies in the face of known facts, not the least of which was the NYT trumpeting the administration’s claims later proved to be false.
Many media have now acknowledged that, as a whole, it failed to investigate or question claim’s from the government, in essence abdicating its role as a “watchdog.”
“the media abandoned coverage so as not to allow Bush to claim victory.”
another falsehood … Bush claimed victory, remember? The media didn’t abandon coverage either … the war went on and on and on with little discernible change. We’re still there …. it’s time to leave.
How arrogant to claim the public can’t discern the difference between Iraq and Afghanistan. The war in Iraq was sold as a pre-emptive war, and the nebulous connection once claimed to 9/11 has now proved false. The push to get bin Laden and al Qaida was pushed aside. If there is a war on terrorists, Afghanistan is still the locale where they base and train.
I think the public understands plenty.
mhenriday over 14 years ago
«Thanks to the left leaning media.» In the United States ?!! One can’t help wondering in which country signature «oldlegodad» lives (others might rather ask what he’s smoking)….
Henri