If he does what he should, what he said that he would do, to fight the right war - the insurgency, and stabilize the region, his leftist base will crucify him.
If he cuts and run, we will be crucified.
If he does half measures, we will be crucified - later.
I feel for him, too. But I’m not convinced staying is the right policy. Why? Because fighting the insurgency isn’t what we went there for. We went there to get bin Laden.
Stabilizing the region sounds laudable, and I don’t want to simply up and leave a mess that we created, but this is a region we cannot stabilize – at least by our standards. Nor was that our mission.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, it seems the best way forward is to call a loya jirga and let the council decide or at least voice its preference. If they want us to go, let us go. We are not finding bin Laden or fighting al Qaeda in Afghanistan.
I would not call that cutting and running. I would call it overcoming mission creep.
With literacy rate around 20% they are sitting ducks to be taken over by one of the most oppressive cults in history. Taliban is leading the way for global domination - by Islam. The fact that they support Al-Qaeda is no accident. If Afghanistan fails, Pakistan is toast …
We didn’t create the mess there - the Russians did.
We have, however erred by leaving them to ‘their own devices’, after we helped them to defeat the Russians, which is when Taliban took over.
We must not repeat that mistake, for this time, the Muslim crazies might get their hands on the real nukes, atop of rockets.
So it was a police action. As in WWII we went to Germany just to get Hitler. Come to think of it, we didn’t get him either.
And, it turns out that the scull that was thought to have been of the Fuhrer, it’s that of a female. Who would have guessed that he was a transvestite?
Obama does have a good choice he can make - get out now, while we still can.
The Far Right will attack him no matter what he does, but staying will only cost lives, and make it harder to leave.
To repeat, here is how you can make your own decision on this:
Decide what “winning” means.
Decide what it will costs in time, money, resouces, equipment, and American lives.
Based on this decide if it is worth staying.
«With [a] literacy rate around 20%[,] they are sitting ducks to be taken over by one of the most oppressive cults in history. [The] Taliban is leading the way for global domination - by Islam.» Petrgrt, you seem to be saying here that it is mass illiteracy that puts countries at risk. Under those circumstances, would it not be wise for the United States to devote more of its collective resources to education, rather than to the military ?…
petergrt over 14 years ago
I feel for him. He has no good choice to make.
If he does what he should, what he said that he would do, to fight the right war - the insurgency, and stabilize the region, his leftist base will crucify him.
If he cuts and run, we will be crucified.
If he does half measures, we will be crucified - later.
cdward over 14 years ago
I feel for him, too. But I’m not convinced staying is the right policy. Why? Because fighting the insurgency isn’t what we went there for. We went there to get bin Laden.
Stabilizing the region sounds laudable, and I don’t want to simply up and leave a mess that we created, but this is a region we cannot stabilize – at least by our standards. Nor was that our mission.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, it seems the best way forward is to call a loya jirga and let the council decide or at least voice its preference. If they want us to go, let us go. We are not finding bin Laden or fighting al Qaeda in Afghanistan.
I would not call that cutting and running. I would call it overcoming mission creep.
woodwork over 14 years ago
tanstaafl…ain’t no such thing as a “right war”, either
petergrt over 14 years ago
With literacy rate around 20% they are sitting ducks to be taken over by one of the most oppressive cults in history. Taliban is leading the way for global domination - by Islam. The fact that they support Al-Qaeda is no accident. If Afghanistan fails, Pakistan is toast …
We didn’t create the mess there - the Russians did.
We have, however erred by leaving them to ‘their own devices’, after we helped them to defeat the Russians, which is when Taliban took over.
We must not repeat that mistake, for this time, the Muslim crazies might get their hands on the real nukes, atop of rockets.
Magnaut over 14 years ago
hannibal rode an elephant and won
petergrt over 14 years ago
“We went there to get bin Laden.”
So it was a police action. As in WWII we went to Germany just to get Hitler. Come to think of it, we didn’t get him either.
And, it turns out that the scull that was thought to have been of the Fuhrer, it’s that of a female. Who would have guessed that he was a transvestite?
kennethcwarren64 over 14 years ago
Obama does have a good choice he can make - get out now, while we still can.
The Far Right will attack him no matter what he does, but staying will only cost lives, and make it harder to leave.
To repeat, here is how you can make your own decision on this: Decide what “winning” means. Decide what it will costs in time, money, resouces, equipment, and American lives. Based on this decide if it is worth staying.
kennethcwarren64 over 14 years ago
Yeah, it;s easy for us to do things quietly, no one is watching, and we have all the time in the world.
We may (MAY) be able to make life better for these people, but at what costs to them and to us.
ransomdstone over 14 years ago
Great cartoon Jim Moron!
mhenriday over 14 years ago
«With [a] literacy rate around 20%[,] they are sitting ducks to be taken over by one of the most oppressive cults in history. [The] Taliban is leading the way for global domination - by Islam.» Petrgrt, you seem to be saying here that it is mass illiteracy that puts countries at risk. Under those circumstances, would it not be wise for the United States to devote more of its collective resources to education, rather than to the military ?…
Henri