For the history impaired (as if a man giving birth to a son and naming him Victoria was not enough of an absurdity) this is what really happened:
George III died in 1820, although his brain checked out 10 years earlier. His oldest son, George the Prince Regent, finally got the job title along with the job and became George IV.
George IV’s only legitimate child, Princess Charlotte of Wales, died in 1817 while giving birth to a stillborn son. When George died, his brother William became William IV.
William IV was quite the baby-maker, although not so much so with his wife. His two legitimate daughters (Charlotte and Elizabeth) died around the time of Victoria’s birth
Since none of William’s ten illegitimate kids with the actress Dorothea Jordan could rule, succession would have passed to William’s younger brother Edward, the Duke of Kent and Strathearn. However, back in 1820 he didn’t wear his rubbers in the rain, caught cold and died. (Really. I’m not making that up.)
This left Victoria as the only surviving (legitimate) grandchild of the House of Hanover, and brought her to the throne.
All this continuity, however, would have proven too convoluted for J.J. Abrams, and he would have retroactively wiped it out to make Victoria William IV’s son instead, much like he used a time travel deus ex machina to cause Jim Kirk to be born three years early instead of his brother Sam, and kill his father.
Sorry, that part of the movie still annoys me so much simply because it doesn’t make any sense.
I just saw the Star Trek last night. I walked in with an open mind free of preconceptions and prejudices….and I loved it. My take is that with a a re-tooling of a series, one needs to be open to possibilities. Why drag baggage into a brand new day? It had enough homages (not a word I know but in my alternate universe it is) to the orginal series to keep it grounded in the ST universe but it was new enough to start a new branch for me to enjoy.
Vicky, it’s an alternate universe, and that works both ways. If you want, you can go back and be Meresankh I of the Fourth Dynasty and do something to prevent William IV from ever being born.
Oh, one last mini-plug. I’ve added the ability to submit a day’s strip to reddit.com and to “buzz up” a strip on Yahoo to the main TNAOQV webpage. (The ability to add a day’s strip to Stumbleupon or to “digg” it has always been there.)
If you ever have a particular day’s strip you feel needs to be shared with the world, you can go to http://newadventuresofqueenvictoria.com and click on the appropriate button to share it.
Name him Victor.
When he grows up and takes the throne, he insists on being called Queen Victoria, to reflect his being a woman trapped in a man’s body.
wndrwrthg almost 15 years ago
We is definitely not amused.
c00k13m0n5t3r almost 15 years ago
He’s right, he can do it. He can call the son Snoopy and still get away with it. Hey, can I live in this alternate universe, too?
Pab Sungenis creator almost 15 years ago
For those unfamiliar with my real feelings on the Star Trek movie, and unafraid of profanity (especially a lot of it), check out:
http://whytheysuck.com/?p=63
and
http://whytheysuck.com/?p=69
Pab Sungenis creator almost 15 years ago
For the history impaired (as if a man giving birth to a son and naming him Victoria was not enough of an absurdity) this is what really happened:
George III died in 1820, although his brain checked out 10 years earlier. His oldest son, George the Prince Regent, finally got the job title along with the job and became George IV.
George IV’s only legitimate child, Princess Charlotte of Wales, died in 1817 while giving birth to a stillborn son. When George died, his brother William became William IV.
William IV was quite the baby-maker, although not so much so with his wife. His two legitimate daughters (Charlotte and Elizabeth) died around the time of Victoria’s birth
Since none of William’s ten illegitimate kids with the actress Dorothea Jordan could rule, succession would have passed to William’s younger brother Edward, the Duke of Kent and Strathearn. However, back in 1820 he didn’t wear his rubbers in the rain, caught cold and died. (Really. I’m not making that up.)
This left Victoria as the only surviving (legitimate) grandchild of the House of Hanover, and brought her to the throne.
All this continuity, however, would have proven too convoluted for J.J. Abrams, and he would have retroactively wiped it out to make Victoria William IV’s son instead, much like he used a time travel deus ex machina to cause Jim Kirk to be born three years early instead of his brother Sam, and kill his father.
Sorry, that part of the movie still annoys me so much simply because it doesn’t make any sense.
pschearer Premium Member almost 15 years ago
Whoever invented the term “re-imagining” has a lot to answer for.
(I’m glad a recent NY Times crossword puzzle had “JJAbrams” for an answer. Otherwise I’d have no idea who he is.)
4Stringer almost 15 years ago
I just saw the Star Trek last night. I walked in with an open mind free of preconceptions and prejudices….and I loved it. My take is that with a a re-tooling of a series, one needs to be open to possibilities. Why drag baggage into a brand new day? It had enough homages (not a word I know but in my alternate universe it is) to the orginal series to keep it grounded in the ST universe but it was new enough to start a new branch for me to enjoy.
ChiehHsia almost 15 years ago
Vicky, it’s an alternate universe, and that works both ways. If you want, you can go back and be Meresankh I of the Fourth Dynasty and do something to prevent William IV from ever being born.
Pab Sungenis creator almost 15 years ago
Oh, one last mini-plug. I’ve added the ability to submit a day’s strip to reddit.com and to “buzz up” a strip on Yahoo to the main TNAOQV webpage. (The ability to add a day’s strip to Stumbleupon or to “digg” it has always been there.)
If you ever have a particular day’s strip you feel needs to be shared with the world, you can go to http://newadventuresofqueenvictoria.com and click on the appropriate button to share it.
Digital Frog almost 15 years ago
If multiple Victorias exist in other dimensions, maybe that explains the use of the royal ‘We’?
Pab Sungenis creator almost 15 years ago
I have to go back and re-write one of the later strips this week. Someone asked for a guest shot, and I’m granting it to him.
cwreenactor almost 15 years ago
LOL!!!
Miserichord almost 15 years ago
Name him Victor. When he grows up and takes the throne, he insists on being called Queen Victoria, to reflect his being a woman trapped in a man’s body.
stpatme almost 15 years ago
“Wibbly, Wobbly, Timey, Wimey….”