La Cucaracha by Lalo Alcaraz for July 23, 2009

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    hank197857  almost 15 years ago

    the operatiive word being “illegal” …

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    barnaclebillthesailor  almost 15 years ago

    myles standish sr was a loser – ask john alden

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    BlueRaven  almost 15 years ago

    Hank, do you suppose the original residents of this country issued the Pilgirms entry visas?

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    Trebor39  almost 15 years ago

    The natives realized our ancestors were all “illegals” once.

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    EScott2U  almost 15 years ago

    Since the natives were not a nation, our ancestors were emphatically NOT here illegally. At the end of the day we conquered them fair-and-square.

    And unlike other conquering nations throughout history, we then gave them land and tax free status - and liquor in exchange for the smokes.

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    Ale83  almost 15 years ago

    Not a nation, i don’t think that’s how the natives saw it. And as for giving them anything, the land was already theirs and it was stolen from them. The truth is this nation took more than they gave.

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    EScott2U  almost 15 years ago

    There is not a parcel of land on this Earth that has not come into possession of a people without being conquered. Again, we conquered them fair and square. We had no obligation to give them ANYTHING. Each tribe had it’s own culture and contrary to hippie belief, these were not a bunch of people in harmony with the Earth, at peace with all mankind. Many (most) were primitive and savage and made no distinction between killing white Europeans or neighboring tribes. It was the settlers that offered up the treaties, although breaches came from both sides.

    The only thing we should be giving illegal immigrants and their anchor babies is a ride back home.

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    hank197857  almost 15 years ago

    raven, what relevance are you trying to establish between pilgrims and illegal immigrants? i understand what you’re trying to put forth, but it’s a reach too far.

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    RonBerg13 Premium Member almost 15 years ago

    I don’t know about that, Ale83, we gave ‘em tons of jewelry, mirrors, rings, beads, etc, etc…

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