In the ’90s Barry Sanders might have been the best player of that decade in football as he went to the Pro Bowl every year he played for the Lions and was offensive player of the year a couple of times. He made the Lions respectable and got them into the playoffs several times though they only won one game in those trips but it was a memorable pasting of the Jimmy Johnson Cowboys in ’92. Leroy Selmon and Archie Manning also were pretty damn good players who played for really bad teams (though Selmon and the Bucs did get to the playoffs 3 times with him but only won one game vs Philly). Joe Thomas of the Browns and Megatron from the Lions were also MVP caliber players on bad teams. Allen Iverson comes to mind from the NBA as does Ernie Banks from the Cubs.
But if you play for a perennially losing team, your chances of going to the Hall of Fame, in any sport, is severely damaged. In the eyes of many, the worst sin a player can commit is to not get a championship ring. But if you do, even basically mediocre players can waltz into their HOF. There’s some players in the NFL HOF who’s selection are rather questionable, but had the good fortune to play for championship teams and/or had the ability to charm the sportswriters. There are a number of HOF inductees I could name that if they are HOF caliber players then there should be at least 200-300 other players in there also.
That’s an interesting way to look at it in panel 3… seems strange to see people talking that close together indoors without masks fortunately they’re drawings
It’s a long-standing argument over the definition of “most valuable player.” Is it the MVP league-wide or the one most valuable to his team. The NHL MVP award, the Hart Trophy, is supposed to go the player judged most valuable to his team, whereas the NFL, NBA and MLB have no qualification.
The same argument that we hear every year at the end of a season about the MVP. Seldom do they discuss who is actually the Most Valuable Player either to his/her team or the league but who is the best player or who has the best stats on the best team. IMHO Archie Manning should have been named MVP every year he played. For the last 2 years a good argument can be made for Deshaun Watson.
TampaFanatic1 about 3 years ago
In the ’90s Barry Sanders might have been the best player of that decade in football as he went to the Pro Bowl every year he played for the Lions and was offensive player of the year a couple of times. He made the Lions respectable and got them into the playoffs several times though they only won one game in those trips but it was a memorable pasting of the Jimmy Johnson Cowboys in ’92. Leroy Selmon and Archie Manning also were pretty damn good players who played for really bad teams (though Selmon and the Bucs did get to the playoffs 3 times with him but only won one game vs Philly). Joe Thomas of the Browns and Megatron from the Lions were also MVP caliber players on bad teams. Allen Iverson comes to mind from the NBA as does Ernie Banks from the Cubs.
Alabama Al about 3 years ago
But if you play for a perennially losing team, your chances of going to the Hall of Fame, in any sport, is severely damaged. In the eyes of many, the worst sin a player can commit is to not get a championship ring. But if you do, even basically mediocre players can waltz into their HOF. There’s some players in the NFL HOF who’s selection are rather questionable, but had the good fortune to play for championship teams and/or had the ability to charm the sportswriters. There are a number of HOF inductees I could name that if they are HOF caliber players then there should be at least 200-300 other players in there also.
Polsixe about 3 years ago
In BBall it’s hard for one star to fully carry a team, but with a 1A or 2 second-fiddle the rest of the team can be elevated.
Ellis97 about 3 years ago
LeBron may be a cool player, but he’s never loyal to his teams.
archipelago Premium Member about 3 years ago
That is a great definition of Most Valuable Player.
A.Ficionada about 3 years ago
That’s an interesting way to look at it in panel 3… seems strange to see people talking that close together indoors without masks fortunately they’re drawings
tygrkhat40 about 3 years ago
It’s a long-standing argument over the definition of “most valuable player.” Is it the MVP league-wide or the one most valuable to his team. The NHL MVP award, the Hart Trophy, is supposed to go the player judged most valuable to his team, whereas the NFL, NBA and MLB have no qualification.
tkcoker about 3 years ago
The same argument that we hear every year at the end of a season about the MVP. Seldom do they discuss who is actually the Most Valuable Player either to his/her team or the league but who is the best player or who has the best stats on the best team. IMHO Archie Manning should have been named MVP every year he played. For the last 2 years a good argument can be made for Deshaun Watson.
Plods with ...™ about 3 years ago
Cash is king
BlueKnight1966 about 3 years ago
He should perpetually win the M.A.P.: Most Arrogant Player.
RonBerg13 Premium Member about 3 years ago
Like I’ve said before about Michael Jordan…
LeBron is a great player, but he would look awful funny playing another team all by himself.
Basketball is a TEAM sport.