Tom Toles for June 16, 2010

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    cfimeiatpap  almost 14 years ago

    http://www.epa.gov/ http://www.teslamotors.com/ http://www.pbs.org/tesla/

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    toasteroven  almost 14 years ago

    Clark Kent: loathe as I am to doubt your super powers of super reasoning, do you care to give some citation for those ideas? Mind you, solar power would be nice. But is it actually workable?

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    riley05  almost 14 years ago

    Ask China, Toast. They’re way ahead of the USA in solar technology and usage, in addition to projects like their Three Gorges Dam.

    One day you’ll be able to see more than half a mile in their cities.

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    jaxaction  almost 14 years ago

    Spain tried it- and they are Failing, it costs too much, not feasible, and not dense enough.

    But assemble-lining NUKE plants, that would put people to work AND defeat bp, who loves all the wind/solar,etc…they give millions to anti nuke groups. Fusion is possible, it HAS already reached break even, and the new ones being developed in FRANCE, by many nations, would work fine, no radiation problems. Now is the time to make it happen, sell fusion plants to the world.

    and geo thermal, that is good, as the dept of Interior OWNS all the sub suface hot waters but in CA, the eco’s just stopped the power lines from leading from the companies that have it all set to go in SOCA.

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    HabaneroBuck  almost 14 years ago

    The technology exists for nuclear plants in every town the size of 14’ by 70’ trailers. Eliminates the severe risk of large reactors, produces abundant electricity, minimal environmental problems.

    But, to be honest, I’m pretty sure “they” want to reduce the population more than work on solutions to the energy needs for that population. Anyone paying attention knows this.

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    Simon_Jester  almost 14 years ago

    The trouble is, I would guess that France is developing its fusion program with a hefty dose of government involvement…and oversight.

    ( It’s how they’ve managed their nukes in the past. )

    If you think the Republicans will ever agree to that sort of thing in this country, have I got a bridge to sell YOU.

    ( An’ you wants ‘Murca to follow the lead o’ th’ durty cheese-eatin’ surrender monkeys?! We”d rather freeze t’ death in th’ dark! )

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    Jaedabee Premium Member almost 14 years ago

    There’s no such thing as “clean energy.” Every method of harnessing energy produces some form of waste. Even if we had Matter-Anti-matter Warp cores we’d still have to figure out something to do with spent dilithium crystals and charged warp plasma.

    (Not to mention that nowadays it costs far more energy to create anti-matter than one gets by harnessing it)

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    jhouck99  almost 14 years ago

    I think geothermal plants would work in those places that are geologically stable (relatively speaking). They would be fairly inexpensive to build and would have far less impact on the environment than most current means of generating electricity.

    More importantly, I think most communities would accept geothermal over nuclear, gas/coal, or even wind or solar.

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    CorosiveFrog Premium Member almost 14 years ago

    There is no magic technology tha will replace ALL of oil. Just small technologies combined together, can remove a lot of dependency on oil.

    The maritimes are a dream place for tidal energy (check “Bay of Fundy” on Wiki), Quebec and the East coast through Quebec depends more on hydroelectric, Sunny places can harness solar, plains can harness wind…

    Let’s use our brains instead of say “We need oil, nothing to do about it!”.

    But to a part of america (and some other places in the world) any non-sissy energy need to make noise, smell bad and make enough smoke to choke alll those non-oil sissies…

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    benbrilling  almost 14 years ago

    Someone smart once said something like:

    Crisis is just another word for opportunity.

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    bloomfan  almost 14 years ago

    @Anthony 2816 I’m with Douglas Adams’ statement on Three Gorges: ““It’s a desperate thing, not only because another species is lost [baiji river dolphins] and the tragedy of that, but because I don’t know why we keep building these f**ng dams”, Adams said in a surprisingly forceful British whisper. “Not only do they cause environmental and social disasters, they, with very few exceptions, all fail to do what they were supposed to do in the first place. Look at the Amazon, where they’ve all silted up. What is the reaction to that? They’re going to build another eighty of them. It’s just balmy.”

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    bloomfan  almost 14 years ago

    RC has volunteered to have the reactor waste stored in his yard. Nukes are “clean”, after all…

    The reason green technologies have been slow to get off the ground is that corporate oil and motor vehicle interests have managed to successfully lobby to suppress them as much as possible.

    One more note about nuclear–I thought all you conservative types were scared of the “turrists.” You really want to have all that end product out there for them to try to steal for weapons?

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    SuperGriz  almost 14 years ago

    Nukes produce waste heat in the form of hot water. Water being a coolant. The hot water is dumped in the rivers which changes the riverine environment.

    France, which manufactures very safe nuclear power plants, ran out of water a few years ago due to a severe drought.

    Everything is a dammmn steam engine.

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    SuperGriz  almost 14 years ago

    Today’s Toles funny, TODAY!

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/tomtoles/?nid=roll_toonsvid

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