FYI : The USA is not a democracy and furthermore if it was a democracy you would not like the results of the voting and would demand judicial intervention … which is pretty much what is happening.
Scalia is an intelligent man, even has somewhat of a sense of humor; too bad he hates all elements of individual freedom in the Constitution, except for corporations with “personhood”. Odd as an "originalist: how he and his wag tail Thomas consistently want to burn that original document. (and write law far more than “liberals”)
“The first instinct of power is the retention of power, and under a Constitution that requires periodic elections, that is best achieved by the suppression of election-time speech,” — Antonin Scalia – “The counting of votes that are of questionable legality does in my view threaten irreparable harm to [Bush], and to the country, by casting a cloud upon what he claims to be the legitimacy of his election, … Count first, and rule upon legality afterward, is not a recipe for producing election results that have the public acceptance democratic stability requires.” — Antonin Scalia -
@wmconellyDo you have any idea what NAZI stands for? In case you don’t, which I’m sure you don’t; stands for National SOCIALIST Party. Nazism is very much, in regards to policies, and doctrine, like socialism and communism. Actually is much closer to democrat policies than to republicans. The only difference between socialism/communism and the Nazis, is that the Nazis were more into the occult and superstition. What you may not be aware is that what you and many others, call “the Left” is nothing more than the gateway to socialism/communism, which in turn can’t not exist without a dictator. case in point: Cuba and Fidel, Venezuela and Chavez, etc.
@PainterArtHave you ever lived in a socialist country? I have.You have a long winded and wordy concept of socialism, but until you have experience it, you know nothing. All that chauvinism, xenophobia, racism, and reactionary views are all alive and kicking in all socialist regimes, why do you think we all run away from it. Do you see or know of anyone defecting or running or escaping into those countries? Makes you wonder, doesn’t it
No what I gave you was right wing socialism. When you look at NAZI and say socialism you leave out National. Do these things sound familiar – Liberal are not true Americans, hatred of immigrants, you liberals are so soft better get ready to wear burkas, Obama is a Muslim, Obama is not an American, the US is a Christian Nation, rich envy, I could go on. These are all “disregard or disdain for egalitarianism, if not overt support for social inequality and social hierarchy, elements of social conservatism”. Why do you think racist do not call themselves liberals? Sure like you say All that chauvinism, xenophobia, racism, and reactionary views are all alive and kicking in all socialist regimes, why do you think we all run away from it. but this not liberal socialism. Why do you think conservatives defend the Confederate Flag on government grounds that cannot even be flown at half mask? Liberal socialism is more like the Scandinavian countries. They of course are chomping at the bit to come to the USA. The sane Conservatives in the US only think about shrinking the debit (which I am for) or and limiting regulation ( I am for limiting it to what is needed). There is this whole other Conservative Socialism that has hitched itself to that conservatism. I do not think most people make the distinction or realize that there is Conservative Socialism. The whole thing does not make me wonder and I am not surprised you do not know the differences.
@PainterArtYou poor soul, the only thing you have are academic definitions of socialism, the kind university professor love to teach their naive students, especially journalism students. However, such academic definitions are so far removed from reality that is almost makes me want to cry for you. The true practice of socialism has been defined for a very long time by many dictators from Stalin, to Mao, to now days tyrants. Socialism has been and it is practiced by purposely keeping people ignorant, poor and afraid, that is a reality. What you have spent so much effort in try to convince yourself (what socialism is) is nothing more that Capitalism with social programs. Canada has it, so does England, and a host of other countries. But calling it liberal socialism is an insult, when everyone is well aware of the horrors of socialism. The key word in all this is Reality, we can dream definitions all day long, but at the end of the day we all need to come to the sad realization that we still have to deal with human nature. Murderers like Stalin, Mao, Fidel, etc. will somehow come to power and put all academic definitions down the drain, and work hard at subjugating their own people and the rest of the world.
Thank you for having pity on my soul and my ignorance. Yes, why do we need definitions? Especially definitions that are far removed from reality. Just because a party or country’s name has socialism it must be socialism. There is no right wing socialism, keep telling that to yourself.Stalin, Mao, Fidel, and other tyrants are all dictators. Dictators need to control every aspect of society to maintain power some of that is a feigned socialism but I have never met a dictator that actually cared for all their people or cared if there were many poor. To stay in power they disregard or disdain for egalitarianism, if not overt support for social inequality and social hierarchy, elements of social conservatism and opposition to most forms of liberalism and socialism. They also are against free market capitalism, but are for economic capitalism where they are the winners.Personally I am not for an economic socialist system of all things being equal. I would say US liberals are less worried about the rich than the gap and trying to eliminate hunger, homelessness, and being poor as much as possible. We are for a fair system where everyone is treated equally has an equal opportunity. Capitalism does not guarantee equal treatment or opportunity. Without any government intervention you will have rampant abuse of both labor and customers and plenty of poor. In capitalism people do not matter, money does. In economic socialism money matters less than people. I believe you have to find the balance.“Capitalism and socialism are somewhat opposing schools of thought in economics. The central arguments in the socialism vs. capitalism debate are about economic equality and the role of government. Socialists believe economic inequality is bad for society, and the government is responsible for reducing it via programs that benefit the poor (e.g., free public education, free or subsidized healthcare, social security for the elderly, higher taxes on the rich). On the other hand, capitalists believe that the government does not use economic resources as efficiently as private enterprises do, and therefore society is better off with the free market determining economic winners and losers.”http://www.diffen.com/difference/Capitalism_vs_Socialism“Dictatorship is a form of government where political authority is monopolized by a person or political entity, and exercised through various mechanisms to ensure the entities power remains strong.12 A dictatorship is a type of authoritarianism, in which politicians regulate nearly every aspect of the public and private behavior of normal people. Dictatorships and totalitarianism generally employ political propaganda to decrease the influence of proponents of alternative governing systems, as is the nature of nationalism of any governing system.”"Between the two world wars, four types of dictatorships have been described: constitutional, communist (nominally championing “dictatorship of the proletariat”), counterrevolutionary, and fascist, and many have questioned the distinctions among these prototypes. Since World War II a broader range of dictatorships have been recognized including Third World dictatorships, theocratic or religious dictatorships and dynastic or family-based dictatorships."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictatorship
jackhs almost 9 years ago
Crony Capitalism worries me much less than Crony Socialism
wdwrkr51 almost 9 years ago
Jiggery Pokery?? What’s up with that?
kaffekup almost 9 years ago
“I may not know the law, but I know what I like.”“Justice” Scalia
edsfam almost 9 years ago
FYI : The USA is not a democracy and furthermore if it was a democracy you would not like the results of the voting and would demand judicial intervention … which is pretty much what is happening.
Dtroutma almost 9 years ago
Scalia is an intelligent man, even has somewhat of a sense of humor; too bad he hates all elements of individual freedom in the Constitution, except for corporations with “personhood”. Odd as an "originalist: how he and his wag tail Thomas consistently want to burn that original document. (and write law far more than “liberals”)
braindead Premium Member almost 9 years ago
Well, the Supreme Court session is over. Now Scalia and Alito have free time to appear at Republican fund raisers.
PainterArt Premium Member almost 9 years ago
“The first instinct of power is the retention of power, and under a Constitution that requires periodic elections, that is best achieved by the suppression of election-time speech,” — Antonin Scalia – “The counting of votes that are of questionable legality does in my view threaten irreparable harm to [Bush], and to the country, by casting a cloud upon what he claims to be the legitimacy of his election, … Count first, and rule upon legality afterward, is not a recipe for producing election results that have the public acceptance democratic stability requires.” — Antonin Scalia -
canFunny almost 9 years ago
@wmconellyDo you have any idea what NAZI stands for? In case you don’t, which I’m sure you don’t; stands for National SOCIALIST Party. Nazism is very much, in regards to policies, and doctrine, like socialism and communism. Actually is much closer to democrat policies than to republicans. The only difference between socialism/communism and the Nazis, is that the Nazis were more into the occult and superstition. What you may not be aware is that what you and many others, call “the Left” is nothing more than the gateway to socialism/communism, which in turn can’t not exist without a dictator. case in point: Cuba and Fidel, Venezuela and Chavez, etc.
canFunny almost 9 years ago
@PainterArtHave you ever lived in a socialist country? I have.You have a long winded and wordy concept of socialism, but until you have experience it, you know nothing. All that chauvinism, xenophobia, racism, and reactionary views are all alive and kicking in all socialist regimes, why do you think we all run away from it. Do you see or know of anyone defecting or running or escaping into those countries? Makes you wonder, doesn’t it
6.6TA almost 9 years ago
Jiggery-pokeryEtymology: alteration of joukerypawkery1. chiefly Britain: Humbug, Nonsense2. underhanded dealings, conniving, or manipulations: Monkey Business, SkulggeryMerriam-Webster’s Unabridged Dictionary
PainterArt Premium Member almost 9 years ago
No what I gave you was right wing socialism. When you look at NAZI and say socialism you leave out National. Do these things sound familiar – Liberal are not true Americans, hatred of immigrants, you liberals are so soft better get ready to wear burkas, Obama is a Muslim, Obama is not an American, the US is a Christian Nation, rich envy, I could go on. These are all “disregard or disdain for egalitarianism, if not overt support for social inequality and social hierarchy, elements of social conservatism”. Why do you think racist do not call themselves liberals? Sure like you say All that chauvinism, xenophobia, racism, and reactionary views are all alive and kicking in all socialist regimes, why do you think we all run away from it. but this not liberal socialism. Why do you think conservatives defend the Confederate Flag on government grounds that cannot even be flown at half mask? Liberal socialism is more like the Scandinavian countries. They of course are chomping at the bit to come to the USA. The sane Conservatives in the US only think about shrinking the debit (which I am for) or and limiting regulation ( I am for limiting it to what is needed). There is this whole other Conservative Socialism that has hitched itself to that conservatism. I do not think most people make the distinction or realize that there is Conservative Socialism. The whole thing does not make me wonder and I am not surprised you do not know the differences.
canFunny almost 9 years ago
@PainterArtYou poor soul, the only thing you have are academic definitions of socialism, the kind university professor love to teach their naive students, especially journalism students. However, such academic definitions are so far removed from reality that is almost makes me want to cry for you. The true practice of socialism has been defined for a very long time by many dictators from Stalin, to Mao, to now days tyrants. Socialism has been and it is practiced by purposely keeping people ignorant, poor and afraid, that is a reality. What you have spent so much effort in try to convince yourself (what socialism is) is nothing more that Capitalism with social programs. Canada has it, so does England, and a host of other countries. But calling it liberal socialism is an insult, when everyone is well aware of the horrors of socialism. The key word in all this is Reality, we can dream definitions all day long, but at the end of the day we all need to come to the sad realization that we still have to deal with human nature. Murderers like Stalin, Mao, Fidel, etc. will somehow come to power and put all academic definitions down the drain, and work hard at subjugating their own people and the rest of the world.
PainterArt Premium Member almost 9 years ago
Thank you for having pity on my soul and my ignorance. Yes, why do we need definitions? Especially definitions that are far removed from reality. Just because a party or country’s name has socialism it must be socialism. There is no right wing socialism, keep telling that to yourself.Stalin, Mao, Fidel, and other tyrants are all dictators. Dictators need to control every aspect of society to maintain power some of that is a feigned socialism but I have never met a dictator that actually cared for all their people or cared if there were many poor. To stay in power they disregard or disdain for egalitarianism, if not overt support for social inequality and social hierarchy, elements of social conservatism and opposition to most forms of liberalism and socialism. They also are against free market capitalism, but are for economic capitalism where they are the winners.Personally I am not for an economic socialist system of all things being equal. I would say US liberals are less worried about the rich than the gap and trying to eliminate hunger, homelessness, and being poor as much as possible. We are for a fair system where everyone is treated equally has an equal opportunity. Capitalism does not guarantee equal treatment or opportunity. Without any government intervention you will have rampant abuse of both labor and customers and plenty of poor. In capitalism people do not matter, money does. In economic socialism money matters less than people. I believe you have to find the balance.“Capitalism and socialism are somewhat opposing schools of thought in economics. The central arguments in the socialism vs. capitalism debate are about economic equality and the role of government. Socialists believe economic inequality is bad for society, and the government is responsible for reducing it via programs that benefit the poor (e.g., free public education, free or subsidized healthcare, social security for the elderly, higher taxes on the rich). On the other hand, capitalists believe that the government does not use economic resources as efficiently as private enterprises do, and therefore society is better off with the free market determining economic winners and losers.”http://www.diffen.com/difference/Capitalism_vs_Socialism“Dictatorship is a form of government where political authority is monopolized by a person or political entity, and exercised through various mechanisms to ensure the entities power remains strong.12 A dictatorship is a type of authoritarianism, in which politicians regulate nearly every aspect of the public and private behavior of normal people. Dictatorships and totalitarianism generally employ political propaganda to decrease the influence of proponents of alternative governing systems, as is the nature of nationalism of any governing system.”"Between the two world wars, four types of dictatorships have been described: constitutional, communist (nominally championing “dictatorship of the proletariat”), counterrevolutionary, and fascist, and many have questioned the distinctions among these prototypes. Since World War II a broader range of dictatorships have been recognized including Third World dictatorships, theocratic or religious dictatorships and dynastic or family-based dictatorships."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictatorship
Meh~tdology, fka Pepelaputr almost 9 years ago
In his best Charles Laughton voice/