Nature IS boss!! As these denier Republican clowns are going to find out. However, they will probably be insulated from the terrible negative consequences by thier wealth. While the rest of us will be suffering those consequences!!
And that is even whether or not most, or even just some of those very consequences will be cause by natural causes, or mankind’s own stupidity in the continued burning of fossil fuels!
Oh well, all this will be upon our decendants anyway. I am certain that they will remember our generations with a great deal of fondness. Yeah, that will be the way it will be!
As time goes on, and the effects become more severe. Their position will change. They will become against ‘wasteful’ gestures, and pretend they never denied the science.
Effects become more “severe”? Men have been burning hydrocarbons steadily for the last 90 years. The sea level seems to have risen about 15 cm in that time. Some studies suggest no sea level rise at all.
God created “Nature” and God is “Boss”….Adam’s Sin brought bad “climate changes”….God used a world flood to stop the “rise” of rabid sinners and the next time God will use a world FIRE….but saving all humans who choose to trust Him with their futures on an Earth God promises throughout the Bible to be Eternal.-Wimpy little men cannot change God’s Plan or “modify” the weather. Man’s understanding is at its highest maybe a “one” on a scale of 100. Man’s capability is NIL.
@motive…..of course man is limited In lifespan and of course God told us in the Scriptures to be good and wise stewards.But this 21st century ultra liberal mythology is merely the “scare tactic” of those who want government totalitarianism, and central control over mankind. And the “climate change” “global warming” pagan Earth Goddess Gaia people are proposing are no solution to “weather” but are a totalitarian trap.-@Hiram B…..Adam’s SIN was encoded by God in his DNA which is in every one in the human race on earth today. As scripture revealed, we are born with Adam’s SIN NATURE and as soon as we are able to act by choice, we by ourselves choose to SIN. Satan tempts every human to sin, and our wants and desires lead us into various sins. Look around at the world today and count the ways SIN has ruined the human race! Education, Medicine, Psychology, Logic, Reason; none can change us. The only true cure is Faith in God’s only Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ, and the ongoing help from the born-again believer’s indwelling Holy Spirit.
The planet has generally been warmer than it is now. During the Cretaceous, it was never warmer and sea levels were never higher, yet that time produced T-Rex, Triceratops, the Hadrosaurs, etc. Life did quite well. We are recovering from the last ice age; in fact, we are still recovering from the Maunder Minimum (Little Ice Age) and have yet to get back up to the temperatures of the Medieval Warm Period. This is a natural cycle and mankind cannot change it much other than through a massive nuclear exchange and the resulting nuclear winter. After all, one good eruption from a dirty, Icelandic volcano outproduces the US and China combined in the so-called greenhouse gasses. Gonna arrest the volcano?
What we should be doing is adapting to the new climate norms. After all, that is what Humans do best – adapt. For one thing our numbers will have to drop about 50%. Now, this will not be pleasant, but if we do not do it of our own volition, the Four Horsemen will be unleashed and they will do it for us.
Pay no attention to the climate alarmists. Pay attention to paleoclimatologists. Most of the scientists who “all agree” on anthropogenic global climate change are button counters and bottle washers or else practice in a field having nothing to do with climatology, and most of them have no training in paleoclimatology or even modern meteorology. What are Al Gore’s scientific bona fides? None, he is a con man. Ask him to explain, mathematically, his positions and he’ll start to stutter.
The Chinese sailed an ice-free Northwest Passage seventy years before Columbus “discovered” the Americas. Eurocentric history is not the whole story. The Chinese were civilized when Europeans were still chasing lice around on their bodies.
“On March 3, 1421 the Admiral and his four captains sailed for Malucca and then on to India. Splitting up here, the Admiral Zheng He and 9,000 of his followers made a disastrous return to China, Zheng He arriving home with less than 1,000 of the original group. Captain Yang Qin’s fleet remained in the Indian Ocean where they stationed astronomers to make a successful attempt at a method of determining longitude 300 years in advance of John Harrison’s invention of the chronometer.
The other three fleets captained by Zhou Wen, Hang Bao and Zhou Man continued on their way to the east coast of Africa and then south around the Cape of Good Hope and on to the Cape Verde Islands in the Atlantic Ocean.
At this point Captain Zhou Wen took his fleet west along the equatorial currents to the Caribbean Islands, losing nine ships in a hurricane off Puerto Rico, while Hang Bao and Zhou Man sailed southwest to land in Venezuela.
Gathering together the remnants of his scattered ships Zhou Wen headed north along the Atlantic coast of North America stopping at various points and leaving artifacts along the way, then heading east to the Azores. Here the ships divided into two groups, one returning to the Cape Verde Islands then retracing their original route back around the Cape of Good Hope then crossing the Indian Ocean to China. The other group sailed north along the west coast of Greenland over the top and south to land on Iceland. From there they sailed the Arctic Ocean, through the Bering Straits then south past Japan and then home to China."
So the Arctic Ocean had to be clear for navigation from Iceland to the Bearing Straits for them to complete the navigation of the Northwest Passage and on back to China. No ice in the summer in the Arctic Ocean, yet the polar bears survived quite well during that period. Climate change alarmists are modern snake oil salesmen.
frodo1008 about 9 years ago
Nature IS boss!! As these denier Republican clowns are going to find out. However, they will probably be insulated from the terrible negative consequences by thier wealth. While the rest of us will be suffering those consequences!!
And that is even whether or not most, or even just some of those very consequences will be cause by natural causes, or mankind’s own stupidity in the continued burning of fossil fuels!
Oh well, all this will be upon our decendants anyway. I am certain that they will remember our generations with a great deal of fondness. Yeah, that will be the way it will be!
robinjhislop about 9 years ago
As time goes on, and the effects become more severe. Their position will change. They will become against ‘wasteful’ gestures, and pretend they never denied the science.
HabaneroBuck about 9 years ago
Effects become more “severe”? Men have been burning hydrocarbons steadily for the last 90 years. The sea level seems to have risen about 15 cm in that time. Some studies suggest no sea level rise at all.
kline0800 about 9 years ago
God created “Nature” and God is “Boss”….Adam’s Sin brought bad “climate changes”….God used a world flood to stop the “rise” of rabid sinners and the next time God will use a world FIRE….but saving all humans who choose to trust Him with their futures on an Earth God promises throughout the Bible to be Eternal.-Wimpy little men cannot change God’s Plan or “modify” the weather. Man’s understanding is at its highest maybe a “one” on a scale of 100. Man’s capability is NIL.
frodo1008 about 9 years ago
Well said, and this particular Christian aggrees entirely!!
kline0800 about 9 years ago
@motive…..of course man is limited In lifespan and of course God told us in the Scriptures to be good and wise stewards.But this 21st century ultra liberal mythology is merely the “scare tactic” of those who want government totalitarianism, and central control over mankind. And the “climate change” “global warming” pagan Earth Goddess Gaia people are proposing are no solution to “weather” but are a totalitarian trap.-@Hiram B…..Adam’s SIN was encoded by God in his DNA which is in every one in the human race on earth today. As scripture revealed, we are born with Adam’s SIN NATURE and as soon as we are able to act by choice, we by ourselves choose to SIN. Satan tempts every human to sin, and our wants and desires lead us into various sins. Look around at the world today and count the ways SIN has ruined the human race! Education, Medicine, Psychology, Logic, Reason; none can change us. The only true cure is Faith in God’s only Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ, and the ongoing help from the born-again believer’s indwelling Holy Spirit.
hawgowar about 9 years ago
The planet has generally been warmer than it is now. During the Cretaceous, it was never warmer and sea levels were never higher, yet that time produced T-Rex, Triceratops, the Hadrosaurs, etc. Life did quite well. We are recovering from the last ice age; in fact, we are still recovering from the Maunder Minimum (Little Ice Age) and have yet to get back up to the temperatures of the Medieval Warm Period. This is a natural cycle and mankind cannot change it much other than through a massive nuclear exchange and the resulting nuclear winter. After all, one good eruption from a dirty, Icelandic volcano outproduces the US and China combined in the so-called greenhouse gasses. Gonna arrest the volcano?
What we should be doing is adapting to the new climate norms. After all, that is what Humans do best – adapt. For one thing our numbers will have to drop about 50%. Now, this will not be pleasant, but if we do not do it of our own volition, the Four Horsemen will be unleashed and they will do it for us.
Pay no attention to the climate alarmists. Pay attention to paleoclimatologists. Most of the scientists who “all agree” on anthropogenic global climate change are button counters and bottle washers or else practice in a field having nothing to do with climatology, and most of them have no training in paleoclimatology or even modern meteorology. What are Al Gore’s scientific bona fides? None, he is a con man. Ask him to explain, mathematically, his positions and he’ll start to stutter.
The Chinese sailed an ice-free Northwest Passage seventy years before Columbus “discovered” the Americas. Eurocentric history is not the whole story. The Chinese were civilized when Europeans were still chasing lice around on their bodies.
“On March 3, 1421 the Admiral and his four captains sailed for Malucca and then on to India. Splitting up here, the Admiral Zheng He and 9,000 of his followers made a disastrous return to China, Zheng He arriving home with less than 1,000 of the original group. Captain Yang Qin’s fleet remained in the Indian Ocean where they stationed astronomers to make a successful attempt at a method of determining longitude 300 years in advance of John Harrison’s invention of the chronometer.
The other three fleets captained by Zhou Wen, Hang Bao and Zhou Man continued on their way to the east coast of Africa and then south around the Cape of Good Hope and on to the Cape Verde Islands in the Atlantic Ocean.
At this point Captain Zhou Wen took his fleet west along the equatorial currents to the Caribbean Islands, losing nine ships in a hurricane off Puerto Rico, while Hang Bao and Zhou Man sailed southwest to land in Venezuela.
Gathering together the remnants of his scattered ships Zhou Wen headed north along the Atlantic coast of North America stopping at various points and leaving artifacts along the way, then heading east to the Azores. Here the ships divided into two groups, one returning to the Cape Verde Islands then retracing their original route back around the Cape of Good Hope then crossing the Indian Ocean to China. The other group sailed north along the west coast of Greenland over the top and south to land on Iceland. From there they sailed the Arctic Ocean, through the Bering Straits then south past Japan and then home to China."
So the Arctic Ocean had to be clear for navigation from Iceland to the Bearing Straits for them to complete the navigation of the Northwest Passage and on back to China. No ice in the summer in the Arctic Ocean, yet the polar bears survived quite well during that period. Climate change alarmists are modern snake oil salesmen.
King_Shark about 9 years ago