There are stories of how the police in the 1800s and early to mid 1900s would use torture to get confessions from people, often innocent, to close cases. Torture is a tool of last result and the ones who use it are like a man who shoots a person he feels is going to hurt him. Like the shooter, the interrogator/torturer, must be judged by his peers and if his actions can be justified by lives saved, even when found guilty of the crime, the President can choose to pardon the man for doing the unthinkable in order to save life. The innocent or ignorant cannot be tortured as part of fishing expedition and those who use torture thus should be held fully liable.If torture becomes acceptable at the level it was used, how long before it becomes acceptable to be used by law enforcement within our border and against our citizens?It is not enough to survive, we must also be worthy of survival.The ends rarely justify the means.That which you do to others you permit others to do to you.RespectfullyC.
There are those who always see the glass half-empty, suspect the worst and act defensively, and there are those who always see the glass half-full, trust until proven wrong, and try to help and encourage batter outcomes. While neither extreme is always correct we, fortunately, have a history of statistics to guide us, such as the poor efficacy of confessions taken under extreme duress. Whether we use this information or rely on our emotions is up to our conscience.
Years ago, I was trained in interrogation by the miitary, university, and law enforcement agencies ove a period of time. The military training included the Geneva Conventions, other sources taught to other sources of law. What ALL training taught was the same thing my son was taught years later in SERE school: torture does NOT WORK, it only gets you what you want to hear, at best, but not the truth.
It was the Bush administration, not the agencies, but only those within who would play ball to get ahead, that besmirched the reputation of America, and ALL Americans who believe in justice and law.(or simple humanity)
zekedog55 over 9 years ago
Wow…Steve Breen with a bases loaded home run!
This should be framed and hung in “W’s” library!
chazandru over 9 years ago
There are stories of how the police in the 1800s and early to mid 1900s would use torture to get confessions from people, often innocent, to close cases. Torture is a tool of last result and the ones who use it are like a man who shoots a person he feels is going to hurt him. Like the shooter, the interrogator/torturer, must be judged by his peers and if his actions can be justified by lives saved, even when found guilty of the crime, the President can choose to pardon the man for doing the unthinkable in order to save life. The innocent or ignorant cannot be tortured as part of fishing expedition and those who use torture thus should be held fully liable.If torture becomes acceptable at the level it was used, how long before it becomes acceptable to be used by law enforcement within our border and against our citizens?It is not enough to survive, we must also be worthy of survival.The ends rarely justify the means.That which you do to others you permit others to do to you.RespectfullyC.
superposition over 9 years ago
There are those who always see the glass half-empty, suspect the worst and act defensively, and there are those who always see the glass half-full, trust until proven wrong, and try to help and encourage batter outcomes. While neither extreme is always correct we, fortunately, have a history of statistics to guide us, such as the poor efficacy of confessions taken under extreme duress. Whether we use this information or rely on our emotions is up to our conscience.
Dtroutma over 9 years ago
Years ago, I was trained in interrogation by the miitary, university, and law enforcement agencies ove a period of time. The military training included the Geneva Conventions, other sources taught to other sources of law. What ALL training taught was the same thing my son was taught years later in SERE school: torture does NOT WORK, it only gets you what you want to hear, at best, but not the truth.
It was the Bush administration, not the agencies, but only those within who would play ball to get ahead, that besmirched the reputation of America, and ALL Americans who believe in justice and law.(or simple humanity)
Mneedle over 9 years ago
Luv to hear liberals run off with no real information. Why believe sen. What’s her name when several former SecDefs dispute the charges.
Dtroutma over 9 years ago
C: you’re probably aware of the FBi guy that WAS getting viable information, UNTIL the CIA stepped in with orders from higher up to use torture.