We’ll be ok if it’s 1 degree warmer in 500 years.All it takes is one more guy like Duncan in Dallas to lie and instead of going to a hospital, he goes to a movie and a health spa.
It is amazing how the historical climate records were of great importance and factual, showing periods where the average temperature was higher than it is today, until someone found a way to make money off it. that includes all the scientist who got increases in the funding once they joined the band wagon(but they all claim that joining the parade was not how they got the funding). Research it for yourself. Look at the published lists of who got the additional funding and when, but it will take time and effort, they do not want you to make the connection easily.
For those who don’t know, National Geographic has a page dedicated to tracking global warming. We’re not talking HuffPo here.And, for the record, “Sea levels are expected to rise between 7 and 23 inches (18 and 59 centimeters) by the end of the century, and continued melting at the poles could add between 4 and 8 inches (10 to 20 centimeters).”http://environment.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/gw-effects/
Press releases and sound bites are NOT “science”, or typically even close to it. Distortion and fraud, from essentially all, or any, sides are not just possible, but probable.
In science, the hypothesis is NOT automatically accepted, rather it is challenged, and sound science investigates the “side effects” and all potential costs/benefits of positions and arguments.
The devil, or more accurately, the accuracy, is in the details, not investigating them is lazy ignorance, ignoring or denying the found facts, for profit, either financial or merely for position, plays to stupidity.
Sea level rise and CO2 are actually only a tiny part of the impacts of anthropenic climate change, and our actions or inactions that are CAUSING that change. From tin mining to titmice, and tragic environmental and HUMAN impacts, the issue is extremely complex, it’s physics, chemistry, biology and even the social sciences that present issues, and needs for proofs (the scientific, not political “proofs”) for rational decisiions and actions..
“Lies, Damned Lies, and Science” by Sherry Seethaler explains some of these complexities and cons used by “stakeholders” to promote their cause, or frauds. Yet even her potentially perceived by the reader “prejudice” comes up in her use of language and text structure to make her points in the book.
Position the lies in interpreting “science” in the media and blogosphere, alongside the exaggerations and outright lies promoted in this political season, and the need for folks to further research claims becomes more vital, yet nearly impossible to pursue, due to the mass and complexity of “information” presented to folks who find little time to research further than Facebook or Wikepedia, or Rush.
Sometimes when I ask someone — here Kevin Robinson — for a more detailed answer or a source, I’m looking for more than just an abstract answer. Sometimes I’m hoping for the entry into some kind of dialogue. For instance, he could have answered 1998, or 1932, or the Medieval Warm Period. Each of these answers would have been revealing in a different way, and would be answered in a different way.
global freeze is coming http://www.newsmax.com/newswidget/science-us-climate-oceans/2014/10/06/id/598864/?Dkt_nbr=Newsmax&utm_source=Newsmax&utm_medium=widget&utm_content=5&utm_campaign=widgetphase2?ns_mail_uid=55766476&ns_mail_job=1589243_10072014&s=al&dkt_nbr=gtwfhh1a
Howdy, ahab. It’s good to be back. I had some health problems, but they seem to be under control. Fortunately, I live in Canada, so I don’t have to worry about medical bills. I’m honored to be considered one of the science crowd, being as i read poems for a living. Baslim is educating us about possible new developments in fusion, OmQR is still providing much needed world perspective, and I have a feeling that the spirit of DrC has never left us. nurf nurf.
how to you explain the scientific communities as far as the rate of change your fellow scientist dismissal of the flat change in temperature for the past 17 years shows collusion with big business. The archeological evidence that shows the earth average temperature was higher in the past was a result of multiple factors which are now being dismissed. Where you paying attention when they taught the part about the earth goes through natural cycles for heating and cooling.
ConserveGov over 9 years ago
We’ll be ok if it’s 1 degree warmer in 500 years.All it takes is one more guy like Duncan in Dallas to lie and instead of going to a hospital, he goes to a movie and a health spa.
klr562 over 9 years ago
It is amazing how the historical climate records were of great importance and factual, showing periods where the average temperature was higher than it is today, until someone found a way to make money off it. that includes all the scientist who got increases in the funding once they joined the band wagon(but they all claim that joining the parade was not how they got the funding). Research it for yourself. Look at the published lists of who got the additional funding and when, but it will take time and effort, they do not want you to make the connection easily.
Motivemagus over 9 years ago
For those who don’t know, National Geographic has a page dedicated to tracking global warming. We’re not talking HuffPo here.And, for the record, “Sea levels are expected to rise between 7 and 23 inches (18 and 59 centimeters) by the end of the century, and continued melting at the poles could add between 4 and 8 inches (10 to 20 centimeters).”http://environment.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/gw-effects/
Dtroutma over 9 years ago
Press releases and sound bites are NOT “science”, or typically even close to it. Distortion and fraud, from essentially all, or any, sides are not just possible, but probable.
In science, the hypothesis is NOT automatically accepted, rather it is challenged, and sound science investigates the “side effects” and all potential costs/benefits of positions and arguments.
The devil, or more accurately, the accuracy, is in the details, not investigating them is lazy ignorance, ignoring or denying the found facts, for profit, either financial or merely for position, plays to stupidity.
Sea level rise and CO2 are actually only a tiny part of the impacts of anthropenic climate change, and our actions or inactions that are CAUSING that change. From tin mining to titmice, and tragic environmental and HUMAN impacts, the issue is extremely complex, it’s physics, chemistry, biology and even the social sciences that present issues, and needs for proofs (the scientific, not political “proofs”) for rational decisiions and actions..
“Lies, Damned Lies, and Science” by Sherry Seethaler explains some of these complexities and cons used by “stakeholders” to promote their cause, or frauds. Yet even her potentially perceived by the reader “prejudice” comes up in her use of language and text structure to make her points in the book.
Position the lies in interpreting “science” in the media and blogosphere, alongside the exaggerations and outright lies promoted in this political season, and the need for folks to further research claims becomes more vital, yet nearly impossible to pursue, due to the mass and complexity of “information” presented to folks who find little time to research further than Facebook or Wikepedia, or Rush.
lonecat over 9 years ago
Sometimes when I ask someone — here Kevin Robinson — for a more detailed answer or a source, I’m looking for more than just an abstract answer. Sometimes I’m hoping for the entry into some kind of dialogue. For instance, he could have answered 1998, or 1932, or the Medieval Warm Period. Each of these answers would have been revealing in a different way, and would be answered in a different way.
oneoldhat over 9 years ago
global freeze is coming http://www.newsmax.com/newswidget/science-us-climate-oceans/2014/10/06/id/598864/?Dkt_nbr=Newsmax&utm_source=Newsmax&utm_medium=widget&utm_content=5&utm_campaign=widgetphase2?ns_mail_uid=55766476&ns_mail_job=1589243_10072014&s=al&dkt_nbr=gtwfhh1a
lonecat over 9 years ago
Howdy, ahab. It’s good to be back. I had some health problems, but they seem to be under control. Fortunately, I live in Canada, so I don’t have to worry about medical bills. I’m honored to be considered one of the science crowd, being as i read poems for a living. Baslim is educating us about possible new developments in fusion, OmQR is still providing much needed world perspective, and I have a feeling that the spirit of DrC has never left us. nurf nurf.
klr562 over 9 years ago
how to you explain the scientific communities as far as the rate of change your fellow scientist dismissal of the flat change in temperature for the past 17 years shows collusion with big business. The archeological evidence that shows the earth average temperature was higher in the past was a result of multiple factors which are now being dismissed. Where you paying attention when they taught the part about the earth goes through natural cycles for heating and cooling.
OmqR-IV.0 over 9 years ago
I’ll just chime in to be part of the merryband on this thread, it’s good company ;-)