Next he says let me add a third wheel under that to make it easier for you to carry around….Obamacare: The prefect example of “do something” Progressive policy making. Only the government can fix a problem and only Big Government can fix a big problem. If there isn’t a problem, manufacture one and make it a big one.Then do something quick! It doesn’t matter if the solution is awful, after all there’s never time to do it right but there’s always lots of time and money to do it over, and over, and over… until we do get it right… or the universe ends..I’m betting on the end of the universe.
They aren’t RUNNING from it, as much as HIDING from it. Democrats are pushing minimum wage as a cheap issue to get the votes of people that don’t understand economics.
I’m pleased with the PPACA, it is a wonderful start. There are some areas that need improvement. However, not working on the areas that need improvement is a failure of our elected officials. republicans multiple attempts to repeal it is and all out farce and a huge waste of our tax dollars. Wasting our tax dollars on this farce is not conservative, it is selfish, hateful and they have nothing to offer. It is time to vote out all republicans. republicans are clearly not in favor of all Americans.
Big Insurance loves Obamacare; don’t let them fool you. Since opponents have been bleating 24/7/365 how much your premiums will increase for 5 or 6 years now, the public expects it. What incentive do the insurance companies have to hold down costs? None; they know Obama will be blamed, no matter what they do. Higher premiums, here we come.
And if Obamacare is overturned, they can go back to the “good old days” of just insuring people unlikely to need expensive care. This better fits their model of taking money and never giving any of it back.
I agree Night Gaunt. Progressives always opt for the least efficent solution involving Big Government as completely as they can. It would be a different and even bigger mess!
You mis-characterize me. “My side” is the side for single payer. To me, the only advantages of Obamacare are these: 1: it buys us time to come up with a better system. Had the previous system not been replaced, it most likely would have crashed and burned by this time.2: although it is clearly the wrong answer, every president from Mr. Nixon through Mr. Obama (with the exceptions of Mr. Reagan and both Mr. Bushes) has attempted to fix the mess that the insurance industry has perpetrated on health care. Mr. Obama is the only one who was able to move anything through Congress. For that, I give him props. As one of my professors was fond of saying: “Right thinking. Wrong answer.”
The only Republican plan that I am aware exists will bankrupt the country faster than bailing out the banks did.
The only Republican plan I have seen (other than 50 votes to repeal and do nothing) was Romney/Ryan. I’ve posted this before, but it’s been a while…..
First premise is to repeal Obamacare. Fine. This returns us to the system where you can be denied (or be faced with ginormous premiums) because you have a pre-existing condition.
Second was to make Medicare so unattractive and so value-less that seniors would prefer to go on the open market to purchase insurance on the vaunted Free Market. So, privatization by incentive rather than by law. Small difference.
How many seniors do you know who do not have a pre-existing condition? Between health history and chronological age, almost all seniors would end up with no coverage at all, and would join the rest of the uninsured for regular visits to the emergency room. Only Mitt Romney is stupid enough to say that emergency room care is “free” on national TV. Most of the rest of us realize that the only free cheese is in a mousetrap.
Emergency room care costs far more than just the dollar amounts put on the books the day of the exam. If a patient has a heart attack, the e-room people will patch that person up and send him back out on the street again. No plan for managing blood pressure, cholesterol, diet. No monitoring and mentoring, which a GP would do as a matter of course. As a result, another heart attack that would have been avoided had the patient had a GP. So, using the e-room would be the primary contact with the health care system for anyone who cannot afford to pay out of pocket or to pay insurance premiums, especially for pre-existing conditions.
Long run: far more bad outcomes, far greater costs.
If there is another Republican plan, I have yet to hear it. Please enlighten me.
I have always advocated single-payer, and I don’t see that I will be likely to change my mind, but I am always willing to consider ideas that have not yet been proposed.
Enoki about 10 years ago
Next he says let me add a third wheel under that to make it easier for you to carry around….Obamacare: The prefect example of “do something” Progressive policy making. Only the government can fix a problem and only Big Government can fix a big problem. If there isn’t a problem, manufacture one and make it a big one.Then do something quick! It doesn’t matter if the solution is awful, after all there’s never time to do it right but there’s always lots of time and money to do it over, and over, and over… until we do get it right… or the universe ends..I’m betting on the end of the universe.
Captain Colorado about 10 years ago
…like a fungus.
echoraven about 10 years ago
They aren’t RUNNING from it, as much as HIDING from it. Democrats are pushing minimum wage as a cheap issue to get the votes of people that don’t understand economics.
cjr53 about 10 years ago
I’m pleased with the PPACA, it is a wonderful start. There are some areas that need improvement. However, not working on the areas that need improvement is a failure of our elected officials. republicans multiple attempts to repeal it is and all out farce and a huge waste of our tax dollars. Wasting our tax dollars on this farce is not conservative, it is selfish, hateful and they have nothing to offer. It is time to vote out all republicans. republicans are clearly not in favor of all Americans.
cjr53 about 10 years ago
The image above is flat-out misrepresentation.
I Play One On TV about 10 years ago
Big Insurance loves Obamacare; don’t let them fool you. Since opponents have been bleating 24/7/365 how much your premiums will increase for 5 or 6 years now, the public expects it. What incentive do the insurance companies have to hold down costs? None; they know Obama will be blamed, no matter what they do. Higher premiums, here we come.
And if Obamacare is overturned, they can go back to the “good old days” of just insuring people unlikely to need expensive care. This better fits their model of taking money and never giving any of it back.
It’s a good time to be an insurance executive.
I Play One On TV about 10 years ago
Agreed. Single Payer is by far the better answer. And although your reasons are valid, there are many more good reasons to make the change.
But no one wants to change anything. It’s easier to criticize than to offer a solution.
Dave Ferro about 10 years ago
Obamacare=Cthulu!
Enoki about 10 years ago
I agree Night Gaunt. Progressives always opt for the least efficent solution involving Big Government as completely as they can. It would be a different and even bigger mess!
I Play One On TV about 10 years ago
You mis-characterize me. “My side” is the side for single payer. To me, the only advantages of Obamacare are these: 1: it buys us time to come up with a better system. Had the previous system not been replaced, it most likely would have crashed and burned by this time.2: although it is clearly the wrong answer, every president from Mr. Nixon through Mr. Obama (with the exceptions of Mr. Reagan and both Mr. Bushes) has attempted to fix the mess that the insurance industry has perpetrated on health care. Mr. Obama is the only one who was able to move anything through Congress. For that, I give him props. As one of my professors was fond of saying: “Right thinking. Wrong answer.”
The only Republican plan that I am aware exists will bankrupt the country faster than bailing out the banks did.
The only Republican plan I have seen (other than 50 votes to repeal and do nothing) was Romney/Ryan. I’ve posted this before, but it’s been a while…..
First premise is to repeal Obamacare. Fine. This returns us to the system where you can be denied (or be faced with ginormous premiums) because you have a pre-existing condition.
Second was to make Medicare so unattractive and so value-less that seniors would prefer to go on the open market to purchase insurance on the vaunted Free Market. So, privatization by incentive rather than by law. Small difference.
How many seniors do you know who do not have a pre-existing condition? Between health history and chronological age, almost all seniors would end up with no coverage at all, and would join the rest of the uninsured for regular visits to the emergency room. Only Mitt Romney is stupid enough to say that emergency room care is “free” on national TV. Most of the rest of us realize that the only free cheese is in a mousetrap.
Emergency room care costs far more than just the dollar amounts put on the books the day of the exam. If a patient has a heart attack, the e-room people will patch that person up and send him back out on the street again. No plan for managing blood pressure, cholesterol, diet. No monitoring and mentoring, which a GP would do as a matter of course. As a result, another heart attack that would have been avoided had the patient had a GP. So, using the e-room would be the primary contact with the health care system for anyone who cannot afford to pay out of pocket or to pay insurance premiums, especially for pre-existing conditions.
Long run: far more bad outcomes, far greater costs.
If there is another Republican plan, I have yet to hear it. Please enlighten me.
I have always advocated single-payer, and I don’t see that I will be likely to change my mind, but I am always willing to consider ideas that have not yet been proposed.