But if the President does it, it’s not illegal… Richard Nixon.And what does someone’s ancestors’ history have to do with what they have learned from it? It appears you neither misunderstood sharuniboy’s comment, or are you trying to mislead others.
The cumulative increases in the “right to spy” in this country goes back to Nathan Hale (a “traitor” at the time against the “current government”), while the Constitution was amended to demand WARRANTS, the incease in technology has complicated that “persons and papers”, and who actually OWNS the data/information. Since at least WW II and the OSS, the division of foriegn vs domestic “spying” has also been contentious, only aggravated by some idiocies written into the “Patriot Act”, rushed through of course in the panic after 9/11, which should NOT have been signed as written.
My original point is that current “window dressing” is just an effort to clean up, not eliminate, what’s been done in the past. In a “enviornomentalists” book, “On the Loose”, Terry Russel says it best: “God secure me from security, forever.”
It is our fetish with “security” that has cost us that security.
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
Just putting curtains on the Bush NSA.
edward thomas Premium Member over 10 years ago
But if the President does it, it’s not illegal… Richard Nixon.And what does someone’s ancestors’ history have to do with what they have learned from it? It appears you neither misunderstood sharuniboy’s comment, or are you trying to mislead others.
edward thomas Premium Member over 10 years ago
Oops! That should be EITHER, not neither!
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
The cumulative increases in the “right to spy” in this country goes back to Nathan Hale (a “traitor” at the time against the “current government”), while the Constitution was amended to demand WARRANTS, the incease in technology has complicated that “persons and papers”, and who actually OWNS the data/information. Since at least WW II and the OSS, the division of foriegn vs domestic “spying” has also been contentious, only aggravated by some idiocies written into the “Patriot Act”, rushed through of course in the panic after 9/11, which should NOT have been signed as written.
My original point is that current “window dressing” is just an effort to clean up, not eliminate, what’s been done in the past. In a “enviornomentalists” book, “On the Loose”, Terry Russel says it best: “God secure me from security, forever.”
It is our fetish with “security” that has cost us that security.