It appears there are many people who think that trying to achieve peace is worse than a worthless notion. To them, I say: Who would Jesus bomb?
Will this treaty work? Time will tell. Trust, but verify; well—spoken words from a long-ago president. You can’t accomplish anything if you do not attempt.
But we seem to love war. Walk loudly and continually swing a big stick.
Speaking about history: history is littered with “civilizations”, no longer active, which felt that war was always a good first choice.
“Blessed are the peacemakers.” What claptrap. Some hippie peacenik says something, and people 2000 years later pretend they believe in what he says, do the opposite, and call opponents surrender-monkeys….what a country.
Ten years ago, when our government was hell-bent on sending our young people and vast amounts of funds to be lost in two wars against countries marginally (or less) associated with 9/11, many of us cautioned against the actions proposed. We were called Neville Chamberlains and surrender-monkeys, and pushovers for Islam and on and on.
Ten years, multiple trillions of dollars, and thousands of lives lost, even more torn apart…..and what have we gained as a result of these “just” wars? Was it worth it? Should we do it again, or can we try to learn a lesson?
Try reading history instead of listening to someone else’s interpretation of it. It is ( and recognized then) fairly certain that England would have been beaten and occupied by Germany had not they gained more time to prepare by the Munich agreement. You don’t like the deal with Iran fine, find a reason other than mistaking a necessary ‘bad deal’ with what is going on today.
“perhaps you missed the link between Aryans and Iranians….”
Perhaps you missed the link between Idaho and the Aryan Nation. And what can we do about Idaho, to make them submit to our American way of life? Sanctions?
Only a total idiot could compare Iran to Nazi Germany, or Kerry to Chamberlain, or any country’s military threat to the U.S., with regard to “conventional warfare”. Our biggest mistake in each case since WW II has been assuming we could use expensive weapons systems to actually win in UNconvential warfare, in foreign countries, against “insurgents” fighting for their OWN LAND!
We’ve learned nothing from the lesson WE taught the British in 1779.
You gotta love it when people route for Hitler to win.
For the dolts whom use Chamberlain as a historical example, tell me, do you feel that the British could have been able to defeat the German army, maybe with the french?
The most probable event would be that the British would walk into a slaughter considering the German army was far larger, effectively paving the way for a quick German taking of Britain.
The added irony is that the action recommended is to copy the European strategy of WW1 whereby you join into large pacts in order to threaten the other country.
Then again it seems that modern conservatism glorifies war, fewer of our boys die than ever, so why not copy WW1, you get to bomb all the people you want and nothing has to change
Enoki over 10 years ago
And, those that ignore history are just doomed…
TCulberson over 10 years ago
Gary missed it, should be President Obama instead of Sec. State Kerry. This will haunt us for a 100 years if Iran goes nuclear
I Play One On TV over 10 years ago
It appears there are many people who think that trying to achieve peace is worse than a worthless notion. To them, I say: Who would Jesus bomb?
Will this treaty work? Time will tell. Trust, but verify; well—spoken words from a long-ago president. You can’t accomplish anything if you do not attempt.
But we seem to love war. Walk loudly and continually swing a big stick.
Speaking about history: history is littered with “civilizations”, no longer active, which felt that war was always a good first choice.
“Blessed are the peacemakers.” What claptrap. Some hippie peacenik says something, and people 2000 years later pretend they believe in what he says, do the opposite, and call opponents surrender-monkeys….what a country.
I Play One On TV over 10 years ago
Ten years ago, when our government was hell-bent on sending our young people and vast amounts of funds to be lost in two wars against countries marginally (or less) associated with 9/11, many of us cautioned against the actions proposed. We were called Neville Chamberlains and surrender-monkeys, and pushovers for Islam and on and on.
Ten years, multiple trillions of dollars, and thousands of lives lost, even more torn apart…..and what have we gained as a result of these “just” wars? Was it worth it? Should we do it again, or can we try to learn a lesson?
lbalch over 10 years ago
Try reading history instead of listening to someone else’s interpretation of it. It is ( and recognized then) fairly certain that England would have been beaten and occupied by Germany had not they gained more time to prepare by the Munich agreement. You don’t like the deal with Iran fine, find a reason other than mistaking a necessary ‘bad deal’ with what is going on today.
I Play One On TV over 10 years ago
“perhaps you missed the link between Aryans and Iranians….”
Perhaps you missed the link between Idaho and the Aryan Nation. And what can we do about Idaho, to make them submit to our American way of life? Sanctions?
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
Only a total idiot could compare Iran to Nazi Germany, or Kerry to Chamberlain, or any country’s military threat to the U.S., with regard to “conventional warfare”. Our biggest mistake in each case since WW II has been assuming we could use expensive weapons systems to actually win in UNconvential warfare, in foreign countries, against “insurgents” fighting for their OWN LAND!
We’ve learned nothing from the lesson WE taught the British in 1779.
Quipss over 10 years ago
You gotta love it when people route for Hitler to win.
For the dolts whom use Chamberlain as a historical example, tell me, do you feel that the British could have been able to defeat the German army, maybe with the french?
The most probable event would be that the British would walk into a slaughter considering the German army was far larger, effectively paving the way for a quick German taking of Britain.
The added irony is that the action recommended is to copy the European strategy of WW1 whereby you join into large pacts in order to threaten the other country.
Then again it seems that modern conservatism glorifies war, fewer of our boys die than ever, so why not copy WW1, you get to bomb all the people you want and nothing has to change
Michael Peterson Premium Member over 10 years ago
The chickenhawks are afraid we won’t get to kill more of other Americans’ children. Bring back the draft, without deferments.