Where are all the liberal phonies that screamed every chance they got that Bush was just looking out for his “rich cronies”?Oh yeah, if Barry actually does preside over the biggest wealth gap in history, it’s “just the way things are”.
Is Ms. Benson making some sort of correlation between the president and the numerous CEOs telling Congress to not shut down the gov’t? The 1% being handfed by the POTUS and turning on their Republican ‘friends’? I really don’t know, but I do agree with Tomcats who compares Mr. Obama to Reagan and ReFlex’s comment about Mr. Obama’s less than liberal leanings. Both parties feed rich liberals and conservatives alike in hopes of getting the donations that will keep them in office where they can do the most damage to the economy, the infrastructure, and the American people. And they do this so easily, they just do nothing but blame each other for what’s not getting done.Respectfully,C.
@Paj – I agree with you that there shouldn’t be a redistribution of wealth but your statement will fall on deaf ears amongst the liberals.
The problem is one of Narrative:When conservatives talk about the wealthy and the poor they do it in the context of the protestant work ethic and point to the wealthy as hard working and the poor as lazy and profligate. This misses a minority of people who worked hard and still suffered some unrecoverable bad breaks and it also misses a few rich people who got there only by being born into the right family.
When liberals talk about the wealthy and the poor they do it in the context of the lucky and the unlucky and point to the wealthy as winners in the great life lottery. They think that those lucky winners should be held accountable to support everyone who didn’t get so lucky and they turn a blind eye to all the hard work many of today’s wealthy invested to get to where they are.
With two different narratives they talk past each other all day long.
I don’t object to taxes that fund genuine government services: Defense, Interstate commerce, infrastructure, etc.I do object to the government taking money out of my pocket to hand over to somebody else because they aren’t doing as well in this economy. Too many of them, from what I see, are in their position because THEY made choices that were foolish: bearing children out of wedlock, divorce, criminal activity, not taking advantage of the academic opportunitiies that were afforded them.
We must hold people accountable for bad choices or we perpetuate those bad choices. Without moral hazard why would anyone do the right thing like: Stay in school, staying out of trouble, supporting the children they brought into this world, supporting their community through volunteer work, etc.
@Radish – You say that quite often and I have to wonder what you mean by “At their expense”.
Certainly there must be a small group in the 1% that got to that position or stayed in that position through criminal activity. I don’t deny that and you can say they are getting fat at someone else’s expense.
But many (almost all I daresay) – got there and stay there in the 1% status by their own hard work and self sacrifice.
If an individual makes a good life for themself plying an honest trade then I have to say you are wrong.
I know many people that are in the 1% and they come from all walks of life: Dr.s Dentists, Lawyers, Engineers, Builders, accountants. They all work long hours and earn every penny they make. Instead of tearing people like that down, YOU should be trying to figure out how you can emulate them better: Perhaps you need more education or better skills, maybe you need to shed some bad habits.
This country provides plenty of opportunities for everyone to grab the brass ring. You should be applauding those that have found the way rather then tearing them down.
@TheTrusted Mechanic – Actually, I think you missed her point Trusty.
The “Working Poor” in this country are VERY well off compared to many around the world.
I wonder how supportive the Liberal base would be of taxing the “Working Poor” so that money could be redistributed to Kenya, Nairobe, Guatamala, Hati, etc.
The Liberal base seems to think those of us who pay taxes should be on the hook to support every poor person in America and make sure they have 2 televisions, a car, and healthcare. But they stop right at the American border.
If the people making $34K/year (As Ms. Quinn stated) had to give up $5K/year so that everyone in the world could have 2 TVs, a car and healthcare we wouldn’t hear the end of screaming.
How does one become part of the working poor in this country? Not finishing High School is certainly a good start. Not continuing to grow your skills after high school will maintain you in that status. Having too many children or, worse yet, children out of wedlock will add to the burden.
I don’t want to demonize the working poor but I certainly want them to accept responsibility for their own contribution to their state.
Ouch, PAJ! I resemble that remark! However, I don’t think Peptibismol prior to writing one of my comments is going to help reduce the size of my essays.Amusedly,C.
Lisa: You could draw the last six or seven presidents in this frame and still be correct.The party doesn’t matter. The politicians always feed first those who have the big checkbooks.
mestopheles (sp) I stayed in school, stayed married, supported my children(conceived in wedlock), worked hard,saved my money, and here I am, 71, JUST above the line…kinda shoots down your generalization, doesn’t it?
Thank you for that insight on the quantitative easing. I feel I should have known that, but since I didn’t, thank you for reminding me. That makes good sense.Be well, Ansonia.Sincerely,C.
For a lot of years until Reagan became president the growing American economy was a rising tide that lifted all boats. In the past few years it has been good to the 1% who have received 95 percent of all the benefits since the recession ended.
ConserveGov over 10 years ago
Where are all the liberal phonies that screamed every chance they got that Bush was just looking out for his “rich cronies”?Oh yeah, if Barry actually does preside over the biggest wealth gap in history, it’s “just the way things are”.
Thomas R. Williams over 10 years ago
Reagan with a slight tan.
chazandru over 10 years ago
Is Ms. Benson making some sort of correlation between the president and the numerous CEOs telling Congress to not shut down the gov’t? The 1% being handfed by the POTUS and turning on their Republican ‘friends’? I really don’t know, but I do agree with Tomcats who compares Mr. Obama to Reagan and ReFlex’s comment about Mr. Obama’s less than liberal leanings. Both parties feed rich liberals and conservatives alike in hopes of getting the donations that will keep them in office where they can do the most damage to the economy, the infrastructure, and the American people. And they do this so easily, they just do nothing but blame each other for what’s not getting done.Respectfully,C.
alan.gurka over 10 years ago
If you feed a gold fish too much, it will overeat and die. Is that Obama’s plan to end the 1%?
Mephistopheles over 10 years ago
@Paj – I agree with you that there shouldn’t be a redistribution of wealth but your statement will fall on deaf ears amongst the liberals.
The problem is one of Narrative:When conservatives talk about the wealthy and the poor they do it in the context of the protestant work ethic and point to the wealthy as hard working and the poor as lazy and profligate. This misses a minority of people who worked hard and still suffered some unrecoverable bad breaks and it also misses a few rich people who got there only by being born into the right family.
When liberals talk about the wealthy and the poor they do it in the context of the lucky and the unlucky and point to the wealthy as winners in the great life lottery. They think that those lucky winners should be held accountable to support everyone who didn’t get so lucky and they turn a blind eye to all the hard work many of today’s wealthy invested to get to where they are.
With two different narratives they talk past each other all day long.
I don’t object to taxes that fund genuine government services: Defense, Interstate commerce, infrastructure, etc.I do object to the government taking money out of my pocket to hand over to somebody else because they aren’t doing as well in this economy. Too many of them, from what I see, are in their position because THEY made choices that were foolish: bearing children out of wedlock, divorce, criminal activity, not taking advantage of the academic opportunitiies that were afforded them.
We must hold people accountable for bad choices or we perpetuate those bad choices. Without moral hazard why would anyone do the right thing like: Stay in school, staying out of trouble, supporting the children they brought into this world, supporting their community through volunteer work, etc.
Mephistopheles over 10 years ago
@Radish – You say that quite often and I have to wonder what you mean by “At their expense”.
Certainly there must be a small group in the 1% that got to that position or stayed in that position through criminal activity. I don’t deny that and you can say they are getting fat at someone else’s expense.
But many (almost all I daresay) – got there and stay there in the 1% status by their own hard work and self sacrifice.
If an individual makes a good life for themself plying an honest trade then I have to say you are wrong.
I know many people that are in the 1% and they come from all walks of life: Dr.s Dentists, Lawyers, Engineers, Builders, accountants. They all work long hours and earn every penny they make. Instead of tearing people like that down, YOU should be trying to figure out how you can emulate them better: Perhaps you need more education or better skills, maybe you need to shed some bad habits.
This country provides plenty of opportunities for everyone to grab the brass ring. You should be applauding those that have found the way rather then tearing them down.
Mephistopheles over 10 years ago
@TheTrusted Mechanic – Actually, I think you missed her point Trusty.
The “Working Poor” in this country are VERY well off compared to many around the world.
I wonder how supportive the Liberal base would be of taxing the “Working Poor” so that money could be redistributed to Kenya, Nairobe, Guatamala, Hati, etc.
The Liberal base seems to think those of us who pay taxes should be on the hook to support every poor person in America and make sure they have 2 televisions, a car, and healthcare. But they stop right at the American border.
If the people making $34K/year (As Ms. Quinn stated) had to give up $5K/year so that everyone in the world could have 2 TVs, a car and healthcare we wouldn’t hear the end of screaming.
How does one become part of the working poor in this country? Not finishing High School is certainly a good start. Not continuing to grow your skills after high school will maintain you in that status. Having too many children or, worse yet, children out of wedlock will add to the burden.
I don’t want to demonize the working poor but I certainly want them to accept responsibility for their own contribution to their state.
chazandru over 10 years ago
Ouch, PAJ! I resemble that remark! However, I don’t think Peptibismol prior to writing one of my comments is going to help reduce the size of my essays.Amusedly,C.
TCulberson over 10 years ago
Why do the liberals hate the rich? I dont see many of them giving everything away to the poor.
dshepard over 10 years ago
Lisa: You could draw the last six or seven presidents in this frame and still be correct.The party doesn’t matter. The politicians always feed first those who have the big checkbooks.
Enoki over 10 years ago
That’s an odd looking paranha….
woodwork over 10 years ago
mestopheles (sp) I stayed in school, stayed married, supported my children(conceived in wedlock), worked hard,saved my money, and here I am, 71, JUST above the line…kinda shoots down your generalization, doesn’t it?
chazandru over 10 years ago
Thank you for that insight on the quantitative easing. I feel I should have known that, but since I didn’t, thank you for reminding me. That makes good sense.Be well, Ansonia.Sincerely,C.
bgarner over 10 years ago
For a lot of years until Reagan became president the growing American economy was a rising tide that lifted all boats. In the past few years it has been good to the 1% who have received 95 percent of all the benefits since the recession ended.