Just bury it where they’re using the power generated from nuclear! If they can drill, and fracking is safe, and nothing ever escapes, then drilling holes for the nuclear waste isn’t a problem, right?
A man on diy tv has taken his home and three of his vehicles off of the grid. He uses solar and wind power to run the crucible he uses to separate hydrogen from oxygen in water. The hydrogen goes to storage tanks and some of the oxygen is diverted to his house as part of the AC/heating. His electricity, heating, and cooling is all powered by hydrogen gas. Three of his vehicles run off of hydrogen gas, though he has one standard gas vehicle for when he goes on longer drives.There seems so many options for clean renewable energy that this cartoon is painful to see. Coal pollutes the air. Mining for coal and uranium pollutes water and land. The sludge and radioactive residue from coal and power plants/military ships create storage and landfill problems.Why aren’t we able to do better than this?Respectfully,C.
One part per million of coal is uranium, so leftover fly ash is now being considered for uranium extraction.As it is, coal mining is more radioactive than nuclear power, and way more dangerous.http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-wastehttp://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/1997/fs163-97/FS-163-97.htmlhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203917304574414713352371376.htmlI won’t even get started on the Greenhouse thing, because lots of American read this page.
There actually ARE a lot of places using the electricity from nuclear where the rock IS more stable than Yucca Mountain, and drilling and storing "hot’ stuff makes more sense than shipping it. Much “waste” is also NOT fissionable material, but merely equipment and well, trash.
We had two uranium mines and a processing mill in the 1950’s, and a lot of health problems as a result, small things like extremely high cancer rates. The cleanup of the mines and mills cost thousands of times more than the value of the uranium produced. We already have enough fuel material to last a long time, without more mining (the dirtiest and most dangerous part of the process), yet everyone’s screaming to open more areas for mining that isn’t really necessary.
The REAL issue is that the U.S. WASTES so much energy, and the companies producing all forms, ARE THE SAME “energy” companies! Consumption is profit, conservation is far too rational for the American mind, or corporate interests, period.
And while we have a healthy and informative debate about our nuclear waste, what do we know about the radioactive sea water still leaking by the hundreds of thousands of gallons from the disabled plant in Japan? First, the fish get sick, and the rest of the food chain follows. What have we heard since the accident itself? If we truly had a liberal media (ie, one that valued healthy living vs. making a profit first and dealing with the fallout (pardon the pun) later, we’d know a whole lot more.
As another example, what happened to the shale oil that leaked all through that Arkansas neighborhood? First off, since shale oil is legally defined differently, Exxon is not legally responsible for any disease or death. Where did they put it? How well is it “out of harm’s way”? Inquiring minds want to know.
I don’t see no stinking liberal media. I see various different ways to bury stories that “they” don’t want us to know about.
There are new, smaller turbine blades (I’ve seen the word COMPACT used, that are being tested to try and eliminate the bird kill problem. And if coal is so damned good, why did AEP have to buy the town and move the residents of Chesapeake, Ohio due to pollution over time. Also WV should no longer be Wild and Wonderful or Almost Heaven thanks to mountaintop removal mining. We are called to be STEWARDS of this planet, NOT rapists!
“for the same reason we don’t grow process and prepare all our own food. it is a waste of resouce’s. Megan McCardle writes about how it would take 30 hours a week for someone to scratch prepare food for a family of four.”What McCardle actually said is that up until the 1920’s, women spent upwards of 30 hours a week in the kitchen. Thanks to preservatives & industrial production, people only bake bread at home as a hobby. But, if you wanted to use only fresh ingredients, you can still cook from scratch in far less time than before. Modern stoves, appliances & electric gadgets make a big difference from the days when you had to quite literally do everything by hand. You can build a log cabin with a fraction of the time & effort it used to take, if you use power tools!The problem with RT’s vision of self supporting houses isn’t that someone would spend all their time working the solar panel farm, it’s that the panels don’t create enough power, & that the storage systems are hugely inefficient. Someday they will, but not today.
Thank you Uncle Joe,I’ve actually posted the videos to this story in the past and am grateful for your link.You bring up very valid points. We do not have the infrastructure to support what Mr. Strizki has done, but in showing it can be done, it gives us a foundation upon which to build. Just like the ‘geothermal’ heating and cooling that uses pipes buried underground to use the ambient temperatures of the earth just 5’ below the ground to help cool or heat a home. It doesn’t produce energy, but it conserves it as, and you probably know this, the temps average in the mid 50’s.Thank you for your constantly thoughtful comments and for filling in the gaps I too often leave in my own comments.swr – The first house I remember didn’t have indoor plumbing SWR. The eggs came from the coop and the milk from trading eggs, chickens, and canned goods from the previous season with the dairyman next door. Canning might take the 30 hours you suggest since you have to prep the veggies and jars, but my grandmother and aunts rarely spent more than three hours a day in meal preparation.BTW, my wife doesn’t cook. She’s an executive with a disability and so cooking chores fall on me. I typically cook fresh veggies but do use canned or frozen items that I can’t buy from the farmer’s market or grow in my own small garden. She prefers to eat vegetarian/vegan so cooking doesn’t take very long to make good nutritious meals. I suggest the Fork over Knives website and their recipe page as well as the Whole Foods Market recipe pages. I cook around fifteen hours a week and freeze leftovers.It’s not that hard if you approach it right.Respectfully,C.
Neither of your two nominated uses for “greenhouse”.I was referring to the universally accepted scientifically constructed climate model.accepted in all parts of the world except USA.
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
Just bury it where they’re using the power generated from nuclear! If they can drill, and fracking is safe, and nothing ever escapes, then drilling holes for the nuclear waste isn’t a problem, right?
chazandru over 10 years ago
A man on diy tv has taken his home and three of his vehicles off of the grid. He uses solar and wind power to run the crucible he uses to separate hydrogen from oxygen in water. The hydrogen goes to storage tanks and some of the oxygen is diverted to his house as part of the AC/heating. His electricity, heating, and cooling is all powered by hydrogen gas. Three of his vehicles run off of hydrogen gas, though he has one standard gas vehicle for when he goes on longer drives.There seems so many options for clean renewable energy that this cartoon is painful to see. Coal pollutes the air. Mining for coal and uranium pollutes water and land. The sludge and radioactive residue from coal and power plants/military ships create storage and landfill problems.Why aren’t we able to do better than this?Respectfully,C.
Ottodesu over 10 years ago
One part per million of coal is uranium, so leftover fly ash is now being considered for uranium extraction.As it is, coal mining is more radioactive than nuclear power, and way more dangerous.http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-wastehttp://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/1997/fs163-97/FS-163-97.htmlhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203917304574414713352371376.htmlI won’t even get started on the Greenhouse thing, because lots of American read this page.
Uncle Joe Premium Member over 10 years ago
The idea seems better than other options. I suspect trying to store radioactive waste in international waters would take ‘NIMBY’ to a whole new level…
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
There actually ARE a lot of places using the electricity from nuclear where the rock IS more stable than Yucca Mountain, and drilling and storing "hot’ stuff makes more sense than shipping it. Much “waste” is also NOT fissionable material, but merely equipment and well, trash.
We had two uranium mines and a processing mill in the 1950’s, and a lot of health problems as a result, small things like extremely high cancer rates. The cleanup of the mines and mills cost thousands of times more than the value of the uranium produced. We already have enough fuel material to last a long time, without more mining (the dirtiest and most dangerous part of the process), yet everyone’s screaming to open more areas for mining that isn’t really necessary.
The REAL issue is that the U.S. WASTES so much energy, and the companies producing all forms, ARE THE SAME “energy” companies! Consumption is profit, conservation is far too rational for the American mind, or corporate interests, period.
I Play One On TV over 10 years ago
And while we have a healthy and informative debate about our nuclear waste, what do we know about the radioactive sea water still leaking by the hundreds of thousands of gallons from the disabled plant in Japan? First, the fish get sick, and the rest of the food chain follows. What have we heard since the accident itself? If we truly had a liberal media (ie, one that valued healthy living vs. making a profit first and dealing with the fallout (pardon the pun) later, we’d know a whole lot more.
As another example, what happened to the shale oil that leaked all through that Arkansas neighborhood? First off, since shale oil is legally defined differently, Exxon is not legally responsible for any disease or death. Where did they put it? How well is it “out of harm’s way”? Inquiring minds want to know.
I don’t see no stinking liberal media. I see various different ways to bury stories that “they” don’t want us to know about.
edward thomas Premium Member over 10 years ago
There are new, smaller turbine blades (I’ve seen the word COMPACT used, that are being tested to try and eliminate the bird kill problem. And if coal is so damned good, why did AEP have to buy the town and move the residents of Chesapeake, Ohio due to pollution over time. Also WV should no longer be Wild and Wonderful or Almost Heaven thanks to mountaintop removal mining. We are called to be STEWARDS of this planet, NOT rapists!
Uncle Joe Premium Member over 10 years ago
“for the same reason we don’t grow process and prepare all our own food. it is a waste of resouce’s. Megan McCardle writes about how it would take 30 hours a week for someone to scratch prepare food for a family of four.”What McCardle actually said is that up until the 1920’s, women spent upwards of 30 hours a week in the kitchen. Thanks to preservatives & industrial production, people only bake bread at home as a hobby. But, if you wanted to use only fresh ingredients, you can still cook from scratch in far less time than before. Modern stoves, appliances & electric gadgets make a big difference from the days when you had to quite literally do everything by hand. You can build a log cabin with a fraction of the time & effort it used to take, if you use power tools!The problem with RT’s vision of self supporting houses isn’t that someone would spend all their time working the solar panel farm, it’s that the panels don’t create enough power, & that the storage systems are hugely inefficient. Someday they will, but not today.
chazandru over 10 years ago
Thank you Uncle Joe,I’ve actually posted the videos to this story in the past and am grateful for your link.You bring up very valid points. We do not have the infrastructure to support what Mr. Strizki has done, but in showing it can be done, it gives us a foundation upon which to build. Just like the ‘geothermal’ heating and cooling that uses pipes buried underground to use the ambient temperatures of the earth just 5’ below the ground to help cool or heat a home. It doesn’t produce energy, but it conserves it as, and you probably know this, the temps average in the mid 50’s.Thank you for your constantly thoughtful comments and for filling in the gaps I too often leave in my own comments.swr – The first house I remember didn’t have indoor plumbing SWR. The eggs came from the coop and the milk from trading eggs, chickens, and canned goods from the previous season with the dairyman next door. Canning might take the 30 hours you suggest since you have to prep the veggies and jars, but my grandmother and aunts rarely spent more than three hours a day in meal preparation.BTW, my wife doesn’t cook. She’s an executive with a disability and so cooking chores fall on me. I typically cook fresh veggies but do use canned or frozen items that I can’t buy from the farmer’s market or grow in my own small garden. She prefers to eat vegetarian/vegan so cooking doesn’t take very long to make good nutritious meals. I suggest the Fork over Knives website and their recipe page as well as the Whole Foods Market recipe pages. I cook around fifteen hours a week and freeze leftovers.It’s not that hard if you approach it right.Respectfully,C.
Ottodesu over 10 years ago
Neither of your two nominated uses for “greenhouse”.I was referring to the universally accepted scientifically constructed climate model.accepted in all parts of the world except USA.