mikefive; Sure you can. Just go to the nearest Mafia Market and buy as many as you can pay for, no questions asked. These Terrorist Trades Days are held at least five or six times a year around big city suburbs. Just look for the code name “Gun Show”.
Just an aside on your examples. I don’t consider myself poor, but until I was about 30 I didn’t fly, rent hotel rooms, or rent cars, because I couldn’t afford it. Sometimes your world is different from the world you criticize.
Actually, that’s false. After the election, several news agencies did the recounts, including the Miami Herald and the Washington Post. Using the standards for which Gore had sued, Bush still won.
This kind of argument has been going on for a long time. Back in the 1940s, when my father was involved in politics in Colorado, the Democrats and the Republicans had a big tussle over what to do with the people who were in line to vote at the moment the polls closed. Most of those who voted late were Democrats, because they had jobs they couldn’t leave during the day. So the Republicans wanted to say that voting was closed, period, at 8:00. Nobody should vote after that. The Democrats said if you were in line you should be able to vote. As I recall, the compromise the voting commission reached was that if you were in line in the building, then you could vote, but if you were in line outside the building you couldn’t vote. John Carroll, a Democrat, won, and that’s why I was born in Washington, D.C. instead of Denver.
And it wouldn’t have made ONE piss-ants worth of a difference for Al Gore…All the Supreme Court did was stop Al Gore’s hostage taking of America with recount after recount UNTIL he found a way for it to work for him. Which by the way, it wouldn’t have.
Perhaps not racist, but the “I’ve got mine, so everything is fine” attitude is certainly “classist.” Not all people know how to drive, or can afford a car, or live in a place where a car is necessary, or perhaps they are too old to drive, so many people don’t have driver’s licenses.Sorry that some of your tax dollars (and I’m sure you make sure that the gov’t gets as few of those as possible) go to help the poor or elderly, but plenty more go to boondoggle military spending and tax cuts for billionaires, of which I’m sure you approve.
“Maybe he should not have been standing outside in full black panther garb, but you know Eric Holder thinks that is just all right.”-Yes Hq, it IS all right. I don’t know about where you live, but here in the US, there is no fasion police, and no laws saying that “black panther garb” is illegal, or negates a person’s right to vote. Just because you don’t like a person’s attire, look, thoughts, or political ideals, doesn’t mean that you or the government gets to tell them that they cannot vote. That is what is right, that is what is moral.
Tigger: YOu may want to move to a more civilized state, as i haven’t had to show I.D. to do any of the things you mentioned. Of course, I’ve never tried to pawn my cars, ‘cause unlike Republicans in Congress, I actually budget for what I need and don’t run up debts to blow people up, and take bribes from defense contractors.
Has anybody heard what the very un-popular republican governor has done in North Carolina? He has made things so..difficult to vote, cut the hours of voting cut by 2/3-rds the amount of polling places and even declared that one citizen of 6 years in a county can’t vote because he doesn’t live there? Like living 6 years IN the county isn’t long enough to be considered living there/ He doesn’t have any other place he lives.
Well, of course, because you say so there is no reason for any possibility of any doubt whatsoever. You and you alone are the teller of all truths, and all of the rest of us sorry beings are just clueless.As I stated before, the brain dead condition persists in you. Do something to correct it before you incorrectly correct others.
“That’s one of the most racist things I’ve heard in a long time.”Then you haven’t been reading the comments of many of your ilk.You lot do racism like it’s an art form or a holy calling.
You forgot to add “Oh, ….we see you are voting for Obama! Well in that case then you can vote 4 times and don’t need ID! Carry on!”.
snort
Because we all know that unless the dems get their union goons to go to peoples houses and bully them into voting, and the lapdog media to pass on the scandals and not report it like it is and sugarcoat everything….OH YEAH, and telling their poll people who are dishonest to the core to tell voters that identify themselves as democrats to vote multiple times and getting illegals fake ID’s that most people with 1/4 of a brain or who don’t collect a government check would vote for any candidate OTHER than the democrat.
Gore couldn’t even carry his home state of Tennesee. Then Florida would’ve been a non-issue. Dems went out of their way to steal Florida, like declaring it for Gore when polling stations were still open, and LOST!
The only thing I’ve lost was the chance of a decent president in the year 2000. If you’re suggesting I’ve somehow lost to you, then you have lost what is left of your mind.
false, they were on the third vote when the supremes reminded them to follow the law, something dems are willing to overlook if it suits them (see holder and the doj)
“I’m sure his response to 9/11/2001 would have been rather different.”Agreed. First off, you can bet Gore wouldn’t have sat there for 7 minutes like a pole-axed cow after being told “The nation is under attack.”And perhaps 9/11 wouldn’t have happened if the “Bin Laden intent on attacking within U.S.” report had gotten to Gore, who probably would have taken the time to read it in full instead of getting the “Cliff Notes” version as Bush did.
I did read your original post. I quote: False. All the votes were never counted, because the process was stopped by the Supreme Court." Your original post said nothing about an “official recount.” I was merely pointing out that a count had been done and revealed that even by the standards under which Gore sued, he would not have won. I fully agree that there was, after the final 2 verdicts in the SCOTUS, no further recount by election officials.
Don Winchester Premium Member over 10 years ago
Aren’t YOU being racist ASSUMING that ONLY white men have ID’s?
Don Winchester Premium Member over 10 years ago
Give it up, kato1979….that was ALMOST 14 years ago….No wonder you Dems stay so deluded, you STILL can’t get over that butt whoopin’!
Don Winchester Premium Member over 10 years ago
False. EVERY time they recounted the possible votes after the election, Bush continued to win each and every single time!
DaveBNM over 10 years ago
When I went to pick up my EBT card, my ’bama phone, my Section 8 housing voucher, my food stamps, and my free college grant, I had to show them my ID?
echoraven over 10 years ago
…or if Democrats stopped lying and scaring people.
hippogriff over 10 years ago
mikefive; Sure you can. Just go to the nearest Mafia Market and buy as many as you can pay for, no questions asked. These Terrorist Trades Days are held at least five or six times a year around big city suburbs. Just look for the code name “Gun Show”.
spiderlegs54 over 10 years ago
Just an aside on your examples. I don’t consider myself poor, but until I was about 30 I didn’t fly, rent hotel rooms, or rent cars, because I couldn’t afford it. Sometimes your world is different from the world you criticize.
curtisls87 over 10 years ago
Actually, that’s false. After the election, several news agencies did the recounts, including the Miami Herald and the Washington Post. Using the standards for which Gore had sued, Bush still won.
pirate227 over 10 years ago
If the GOP had good ideas they would not need to suppress votes.
lonecat over 10 years ago
This kind of argument has been going on for a long time. Back in the 1940s, when my father was involved in politics in Colorado, the Democrats and the Republicans had a big tussle over what to do with the people who were in line to vote at the moment the polls closed. Most of those who voted late were Democrats, because they had jobs they couldn’t leave during the day. So the Republicans wanted to say that voting was closed, period, at 8:00. Nobody should vote after that. The Democrats said if you were in line you should be able to vote. As I recall, the compromise the voting commission reached was that if you were in line in the building, then you could vote, but if you were in line outside the building you couldn’t vote. John Carroll, a Democrat, won, and that’s why I was born in Washington, D.C. instead of Denver.
Don Winchester Premium Member over 10 years ago
And it wouldn’t have made ONE piss-ants worth of a difference for Al Gore…All the Supreme Court did was stop Al Gore’s hostage taking of America with recount after recount UNTIL he found a way for it to work for him. Which by the way, it wouldn’t have.
McSpook over 10 years ago
Except that The SCOTUS STOPPED the recount before it was completed, so your comment and your sarcasm are equally incorrect and idiotic.
McSpook over 10 years ago
Perhaps not racist, but the “I’ve got mine, so everything is fine” attitude is certainly “classist.” Not all people know how to drive, or can afford a car, or live in a place where a car is necessary, or perhaps they are too old to drive, so many people don’t have driver’s licenses.Sorry that some of your tax dollars (and I’m sure you make sure that the gov’t gets as few of those as possible) go to help the poor or elderly, but plenty more go to boondoggle military spending and tax cuts for billionaires, of which I’m sure you approve.
McSpook over 10 years ago
“don’t recall any stealing of elections except in 1960.”Then you must have been brain dead in 2000 (a condition which persists it seems).
CasualBrowser over 10 years ago
“Maybe he should not have been standing outside in full black panther garb, but you know Eric Holder thinks that is just all right.”-Yes Hq, it IS all right. I don’t know about where you live, but here in the US, there is no fasion police, and no laws saying that “black panther garb” is illegal, or negates a person’s right to vote. Just because you don’t like a person’s attire, look, thoughts, or political ideals, doesn’t mean that you or the government gets to tell them that they cannot vote. That is what is right, that is what is moral.
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
Tigger: YOu may want to move to a more civilized state, as i haven’t had to show I.D. to do any of the things you mentioned. Of course, I’ve never tried to pawn my cars, ‘cause unlike Republicans in Congress, I actually budget for what I need and don’t run up debts to blow people up, and take bribes from defense contractors.
rangerjustice over 10 years ago
Hm, I have to carry identification to drive a car, cash a check, sign for a loan. Why the hell shouldn’t ID be required to vote?
pam Miner over 10 years ago
Has anybody heard what the very un-popular republican governor has done in North Carolina? He has made things so..difficult to vote, cut the hours of voting cut by 2/3-rds the amount of polling places and even declared that one citizen of 6 years in a county can’t vote because he doesn’t live there? Like living 6 years IN the county isn’t long enough to be considered living there/ He doesn’t have any other place he lives.
McSpook over 10 years ago
Well, of course, because you say so there is no reason for any possibility of any doubt whatsoever. You and you alone are the teller of all truths, and all of the rest of us sorry beings are just clueless.As I stated before, the brain dead condition persists in you. Do something to correct it before you incorrectly correct others.
McSpook over 10 years ago
“That’s one of the most racist things I’ve heard in a long time.”Then you haven’t been reading the comments of many of your ilk.You lot do racism like it’s an art form or a holy calling.
lisak157 Premium Member over 10 years ago
You forgot to add “Oh, ….we see you are voting for Obama! Well in that case then you can vote 4 times and don’t need ID! Carry on!”.
snortBecause we all know that unless the dems get their union goons to go to peoples houses and bully them into voting, and the lapdog media to pass on the scandals and not report it like it is and sugarcoat everything….OH YEAH, and telling their poll people who are dishonest to the core to tell voters that identify themselves as democrats to vote multiple times and getting illegals fake ID’s that most people with 1/4 of a brain or who don’t collect a government check would vote for any candidate OTHER than the democrat.
Don Winchester Premium Member over 10 years ago
@DrCanuck
Gore couldn’t even carry his home state of Tennesee. Then Florida would’ve been a non-issue. Dems went out of their way to steal Florida, like declaring it for Gore when polling stations were still open, and LOST!
McSpook over 10 years ago
The only thing I’ve lost was the chance of a decent president in the year 2000. If you’re suggesting I’ve somehow lost to you, then you have lost what is left of your mind.
Don Winchester Premium Member over 10 years ago
No way to talk about your G’ma.
chipscount over 10 years ago
false, they were on the third vote when the supremes reminded them to follow the law, something dems are willing to overlook if it suits them (see holder and the doj)
CasualBrowser over 10 years ago
“… club-toting Blank Panther miscreants…”-I only remember seeing one Black Panther, and that was minus the club. What election were you watching?
McSpook over 10 years ago
“I’m sure his response to 9/11/2001 would have been rather different.”Agreed. First off, you can bet Gore wouldn’t have sat there for 7 minutes like a pole-axed cow after being told “The nation is under attack.”And perhaps 9/11 wouldn’t have happened if the “Bin Laden intent on attacking within U.S.” report had gotten to Gore, who probably would have taken the time to read it in full instead of getting the “Cliff Notes” version as Bush did.
curtisls87 over 10 years ago
I did read your original post. I quote: False. All the votes were never counted, because the process was stopped by the Supreme Court." Your original post said nothing about an “official recount.” I was merely pointing out that a count had been done and revealed that even by the standards under which Gore sued, he would not have won. I fully agree that there was, after the final 2 verdicts in the SCOTUS, no further recount by election officials.