It helped change the tide in our involvement in Viet Nam. A lot of kids had to have their heads beaten in, though. I don’t think it could happen here again, though. I’m sure we’ve done mountains of research regarding crowd control since those days.
Been involved in several riot situations, from reluctant observer, to standing the line on the “law enforcement” side with a military unit (no, we did NOT shoot anyone!!), and a federal law enforcement agency.
In training people to control riots, the most important point is to take actions ahead of time, to PREVENT THEM FROM STARTING!
There IS a difference between legitimate DEMONSTRATIONS, and riots. In this country, we are supposed to honor those demonstrations as free speech, but that stops when things become riots. It’s also up to the ORGANIZERS of said demonstrations to “keep the peace”.
dtroutma, that’s all fine until governments insert agents provocateurs into demonstrations to start riots and give the demonstrators a bad name. There’s plenty of evidence on the net to show it happens in the US, UK, Japan and elsewhere.
@MStevenson58 – the Middle East was doing fine until Western governments started deposing democratically elected leaders (Mossadegh) and propping up dictators (Saddam, Mubarak, House of Saud etc).
The invasion of Iraq was another blatant interference in the affairs of another country. Before the invasion Iraq was in many ways a poster child for a Western-approved system: universal suffrage, secular, highly-educated, and strong leadership. Look at it now.
The US has never had problems dealing with evil dictators like Saddam so long as they remember their place. The moment Saddam stepped out of line – to suggest he sell his oil in euros instead of dollars – he triggered the “weapons of mass destruction” pretence and was invaded.
CorosiveFrog Premium Member almost 11 years ago
Mimi teh Kat says;Like, yeah, like, that’s, like, so true.
I Play One On TV almost 11 years ago
It helped change the tide in our involvement in Viet Nam. A lot of kids had to have their heads beaten in, though. I don’t think it could happen here again, though. I’m sure we’ve done mountains of research regarding crowd control since those days.
Dtroutma almost 11 years ago
Been involved in several riot situations, from reluctant observer, to standing the line on the “law enforcement” side with a military unit (no, we did NOT shoot anyone!!), and a federal law enforcement agency.
In training people to control riots, the most important point is to take actions ahead of time, to PREVENT THEM FROM STARTING!
There IS a difference between legitimate DEMONSTRATIONS, and riots. In this country, we are supposed to honor those demonstrations as free speech, but that stops when things become riots. It’s also up to the ORGANIZERS of said demonstrations to “keep the peace”.
OmqR-IV.0 almost 11 years ago
disparaged, “The middle east deserves everything they get.”
Indeed they do: our petro dollars.
Kvasir42 Premium Member almost 11 years ago
I wouldn’t want to be a woman in the Egyptian crowds, even though they make positive contributions to the overall effort. But it isn’t very safe.
sartre almost 11 years ago
dtroutma, that’s all fine until governments insert agents provocateurs into demonstrations to start riots and give the demonstrators a bad name. There’s plenty of evidence on the net to show it happens in the US, UK, Japan and elsewhere.
sartre almost 11 years ago
@MStevenson58 – the Middle East was doing fine until Western governments started deposing democratically elected leaders (Mossadegh) and propping up dictators (Saddam, Mubarak, House of Saud etc).
The invasion of Iraq was another blatant interference in the affairs of another country. Before the invasion Iraq was in many ways a poster child for a Western-approved system: universal suffrage, secular, highly-educated, and strong leadership. Look at it now.
The US has never had problems dealing with evil dictators like Saddam so long as they remember their place. The moment Saddam stepped out of line – to suggest he sell his oil in euros instead of dollars – he triggered the “weapons of mass destruction” pretence and was invaded.