1) are you actually saying that voting against the way polls tell you to vote is “stealing an election”?
2) I always love to hear from those who support serfdom. Usually they’re serfs (AKA working poor) who somehow think they’d be the top of the ladder if serfdom came back.
3) There’s a difference between climate and weather. Climate is long term, weather is what is happening day to day. Whether or not you “believe” that humans are causing global warming/climate change is one thing, denying it is just sticking your head in the sand. Oh and whether or not humans are creating climate change? I personally don’t care, I would however enjoy breathable air and I’m rather addicted to potable water.
If a person believes in climate change, no matter what the cause, and survives a major weather incident like Sandy, the Midwest tornado season last year, the dust storms in the southwest, etc… it is unlikely they will suddenly decide there is no such thing as climate change. If a person does not believe in climate change and survives the same incidents, there is a very good chance they will reconsider the possibility. As weather becomes more dangerous, the number of people concerned about it will increase.The question is this- how bad will things have to get before enough people agree to start responding. I believe we can create jobs and new technologies that will have significant impact on how bad things might get, but I also feel that the amount of time we have to do this without going through significant pain is diminishing.This cartoon displays an extreme example of an extreme opinion and this view is increasingly a minority in our country. This is another reason we need educated people serving on the Science Committee in Congress. One of the men vying for the job doesn’t think anything can be done about climate because it is “caused by solar flares”, an opinion disproved by actual scientists.Respectfully,C.
I remember (showing my age) that in the period before the big Vietnam anti-war protests, there was a period of what was called Teach-Ins, mostly on college campuses — the idea was that scholars on both sides of the question of US involvement in Vietnam would have a debate. Eventually there was a nationally-televised debate as well. The Teach-ins had a bug influence on the development of the movement — the anti-war activists had a solid basis in history and political science. I wonder if there could be something similar for climate change. (I’m also thinking of the Huxley-Wilberforce debate about evolution.) I’m not assuming that the format would have to be a debate — it’s not clear that you could find enough reputable scientists who would take the NO side — but a big education campaign of some sort would be helpful. The questions are fairly complicated, but we need the broad support of intelligent non-specialists if we are going to make the necessary changes.
“Just like liberals don’t believe in an ultimate supreme being of the universe. But we won’t talk about that because you can’t tax it.”You are once again ill informed. What a surprise. Many liberals believe in the existence of God. Many are Christians who may or may not personally oppose abortion and/or find homosexuality distasteful. The difference is they don’t believe in forcing their beliefs on to other people. That is part of being an American is all about; being able to live side by side with people who believe differently than you. “Conservatives” can oppose gay marriage, abortion, and all the other “liberal” ideals all they want, but they need to stop forcing their believes onto the rest of us.
You should really pull your head out of the sand. 95% of the Worlds climatologist agree that MAN MADE global warming is occurring yet you believe the data funded by big business so they wont have to spend the money to clean up the damage they are causing to OUR planet. I bet you are a smoker and during the 70s you lit up and said “Dont believe all these extremeist critics about smoking and cancer, look at all this research that R.J. Reynolds has put out, it’s totally safe!” GET A CLUE!!!!!!!!
The election results weren’t a falling wall, unfortunately. Folks like Coburn and Inhofe, McConnell and Graham, and the ever sadder McCain are still around, wailing, whining, and fuming, while denying reality, and the needs of the American people, and the world. It is so sad that in the 21st Century, so many Americans are still willing to accept the science, and social policy moving toward feudalism, of the 13th.
I live in a community where one of the major employers/businesses/income-producers is a large Christian university.
I asked one of its students, who was hoping to become pre-med, how he could reconcile the obvious change and increasing resistance shown by germs with the required disbelief in evolution. He told me that he believed that germs evolved, but just not humans. Whatever floats your boat.
When I talk to people who have made their minds up, and do not want to accept scientific conclusion regarding climate change, I find it helpful to state that, as noted above, clean water and air are important, regardless of who caused the problem.
When I first graduated school, when dirt was new, I saw cataract formation starting in people in their 40s and 50s. Not to say it was enough to interfere with their vision, but enough for me to visualize with a microscope. Now I see cataracts forming in people in their 20s. This is due to our increased exposure to ultraviolet light, a result of the ozone not doing its job of filtering UV light before it gets to us. Melanoma is much more prevalent today, as well, although a lot of that problem comes from tanning booths. Whether or not we are to blame for this happening, it’s affecting us. So, maybe we can work on a solution without having to agree on everything.
On the other hand, our MO is to allow problems to get way out of hand before we start to accept the need to come up with a solution. For example, how many days ’til we drive over the fiscal cliff? And what is Congress doing?
If you don’t think liberals believe in a God, you’ve been listening too much to conservative media. They’re wrong about THAT as well, big surprise. The conservatives really need to come out of their bubble and re-join the fact-based world.
Rottiluv over 11 years ago
1) are you actually saying that voting against the way polls tell you to vote is “stealing an election”?
2) I always love to hear from those who support serfdom. Usually they’re serfs (AKA working poor) who somehow think they’d be the top of the ladder if serfdom came back.
3) There’s a difference between climate and weather. Climate is long term, weather is what is happening day to day. Whether or not you “believe” that humans are causing global warming/climate change is one thing, denying it is just sticking your head in the sand. Oh and whether or not humans are creating climate change? I personally don’t care, I would however enjoy breathable air and I’m rather addicted to potable water.
alff-steinberger over 11 years ago
Hold on – isn’t “Michael wme” just trying to be funny? No one could seriously hold the views he expressed-
chazandru over 11 years ago
If a person believes in climate change, no matter what the cause, and survives a major weather incident like Sandy, the Midwest tornado season last year, the dust storms in the southwest, etc… it is unlikely they will suddenly decide there is no such thing as climate change. If a person does not believe in climate change and survives the same incidents, there is a very good chance they will reconsider the possibility. As weather becomes more dangerous, the number of people concerned about it will increase.The question is this- how bad will things have to get before enough people agree to start responding. I believe we can create jobs and new technologies that will have significant impact on how bad things might get, but I also feel that the amount of time we have to do this without going through significant pain is diminishing.This cartoon displays an extreme example of an extreme opinion and this view is increasingly a minority in our country. This is another reason we need educated people serving on the Science Committee in Congress. One of the men vying for the job doesn’t think anything can be done about climate because it is “caused by solar flares”, an opinion disproved by actual scientists.Respectfully,C.
lonecat over 11 years ago
I remember (showing my age) that in the period before the big Vietnam anti-war protests, there was a period of what was called Teach-Ins, mostly on college campuses — the idea was that scholars on both sides of the question of US involvement in Vietnam would have a debate. Eventually there was a nationally-televised debate as well. The Teach-ins had a bug influence on the development of the movement — the anti-war activists had a solid basis in history and political science. I wonder if there could be something similar for climate change. (I’m also thinking of the Huxley-Wilberforce debate about evolution.) I’m not assuming that the format would have to be a debate — it’s not clear that you could find enough reputable scientists who would take the NO side — but a big education campaign of some sort would be helpful. The questions are fairly complicated, but we need the broad support of intelligent non-specialists if we are going to make the necessary changes.
Jason Allen over 11 years ago
“Just like liberals don’t believe in an ultimate supreme being of the universe. But we won’t talk about that because you can’t tax it.”You are once again ill informed. What a surprise. Many liberals believe in the existence of God. Many are Christians who may or may not personally oppose abortion and/or find homosexuality distasteful. The difference is they don’t believe in forcing their beliefs on to other people. That is part of being an American is all about; being able to live side by side with people who believe differently than you. “Conservatives” can oppose gay marriage, abortion, and all the other “liberal” ideals all they want, but they need to stop forcing their believes onto the rest of us.
STLDan over 11 years ago
You should really pull your head out of the sand. 95% of the Worlds climatologist agree that MAN MADE global warming is occurring yet you believe the data funded by big business so they wont have to spend the money to clean up the damage they are causing to OUR planet. I bet you are a smoker and during the 70s you lit up and said “Dont believe all these extremeist critics about smoking and cancer, look at all this research that R.J. Reynolds has put out, it’s totally safe!” GET A CLUE!!!!!!!!
rockngolfer over 11 years ago
I think the guy in the cartoon is the head of the House Science Committee.
Dtroutma over 11 years ago
The election results weren’t a falling wall, unfortunately. Folks like Coburn and Inhofe, McConnell and Graham, and the ever sadder McCain are still around, wailing, whining, and fuming, while denying reality, and the needs of the American people, and the world. It is so sad that in the 21st Century, so many Americans are still willing to accept the science, and social policy moving toward feudalism, of the 13th.
I Play One On TV over 11 years ago
I live in a community where one of the major employers/businesses/income-producers is a large Christian university.
I asked one of its students, who was hoping to become pre-med, how he could reconcile the obvious change and increasing resistance shown by germs with the required disbelief in evolution. He told me that he believed that germs evolved, but just not humans. Whatever floats your boat.
When I talk to people who have made their minds up, and do not want to accept scientific conclusion regarding climate change, I find it helpful to state that, as noted above, clean water and air are important, regardless of who caused the problem.
When I first graduated school, when dirt was new, I saw cataract formation starting in people in their 40s and 50s. Not to say it was enough to interfere with their vision, but enough for me to visualize with a microscope. Now I see cataracts forming in people in their 20s. This is due to our increased exposure to ultraviolet light, a result of the ozone not doing its job of filtering UV light before it gets to us. Melanoma is much more prevalent today, as well, although a lot of that problem comes from tanning booths. Whether or not we are to blame for this happening, it’s affecting us. So, maybe we can work on a solution without having to agree on everything.
On the other hand, our MO is to allow problems to get way out of hand before we start to accept the need to come up with a solution. For example, how many days ’til we drive over the fiscal cliff? And what is Congress doing?
ARodney over 11 years ago
If you don’t think liberals believe in a God, you’ve been listening too much to conservative media. They’re wrong about THAT as well, big surprise. The conservatives really need to come out of their bubble and re-join the fact-based world.