What does it matter? The U. S., officially bankrupt since 1933, has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; Declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H. J. R. 192, 73rd. Congress in session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Government Offices, Officers and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.
I must ask, did you agree at all going into Afghanistan? With your post and obvious contempt for President Bush, I asume you in no way agreed with the war in Iraq, but what was your position on our going into Afghanistan?
Diverting our attention away from Afghanistan was majorly costly in our efforts there. And of course hiding the costs of the war such as to pretend to be a “fiscal conservative” when you aren’t, is also equally reprehensible.
As for going in, I agree with that. I disagree with the management. I also actually agree with staying. Of course I do not have all of the details, but as a woman myself I can feel for the stories of women who are killed for attempting to get an education by some of the people we’re after there, granted their numbers have dwindled now.
Iraq itself wasn’t wholly wrong. The method, the reasoning, and without listening to [and even firing dissenting generals] was wrong. But not entirely his fault. People say the mainstream media gives Obama too much leeway. If that’s the case, they were completely asleep when they didn’t question our Iraq plans.
hey Bruce,
A couple of days ago you posted…Bruce4671 said, 2 days ago
“back in my US Army Security days, part of my job was to intercept, decode and publish the secure transmission of “target” countries. …”
Me too!
tjdestry: but when the Iraqi oil rolls in, we’ll all be rich!
WashPost, Reuters and others have reported that U.S. firms were strangely missing from bidding on Iraq oil field development. After all this, U.S. oil companies are walking away from Iraq’s oil. There’s a story here that will come out eventually. Probably something along the lines that eight years ago they understood the govt. would provide the upfront costs so they wouldn’t have to dip into the trillions of profit.
I think what was being referred to was Bush Jr assertion in his state of the union prior to the start of the Iraq war that oil revenues from Iraq would be used to cover our expenses.
Yes, bradwilliams, W did declare that the expenses of the Iraq war would be covered by Iraqi oil revenue. Not that blood for oil is at all acceptable, but that was 1 of the carrots on the stick.
neoconman, you’re getting closer to the truth of why the US oil companies are shying away from developing oil fields with the iraqis. China, France, others will now get the oil the previous administration just sort of took for granted we’d be a 50 percent partner
A review of WHO occupied control from the White House while most of that debt accumulated since 1980 would be worthwhile, but certainly hard for “Reaganomics” fans to dodge.
A little national debt to appear that, we need you to work. So we can sit back and relax and rule. A little tax to appear that we need your paper earnings to pay for stuff. Let you think those paper earnings are worth something. We print as much as we need undercover to keep you working.
comYics over 14 years ago
Still waiting for those new vehicles to stop getting uglier.
Michael Peterson Premium Member over 14 years ago
Yes, remember, we still have to pay for Georgie’s wars. Oh, but when the Iraqi oil rolls in, we’ll all be rich!
Whatroughbeast over 14 years ago
What does it matter? The U. S., officially bankrupt since 1933, has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; Declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H. J. R. 192, 73rd. Congress in session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Government Offices, Officers and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.
http://www.givemeliberty.50megs.com/Traficant.htm
wminfield over 14 years ago
Don’t worry, we can always print more. No problems there, right?
Jaedabee Premium Member over 14 years ago
“Yes, remember, we still have to pay for Georgie’s wars.”
Bush’s wars didn’t cost any money, remember? They magically never were included in the budget.johndh123 over 14 years ago
Jae’da,
I must ask, did you agree at all going into Afghanistan? With your post and obvious contempt for President Bush, I asume you in no way agreed with the war in Iraq, but what was your position on our going into Afghanistan?
Jaedabee Premium Member over 14 years ago
Diverting our attention away from Afghanistan was majorly costly in our efforts there. And of course hiding the costs of the war such as to pretend to be a “fiscal conservative” when you aren’t, is also equally reprehensible.
As for going in, I agree with that. I disagree with the management. I also actually agree with staying. Of course I do not have all of the details, but as a woman myself I can feel for the stories of women who are killed for attempting to get an education by some of the people we’re after there, granted their numbers have dwindled now.
Iraq itself wasn’t wholly wrong. The method, the reasoning, and without listening to [and even firing dissenting generals] was wrong. But not entirely his fault. People say the mainstream media gives Obama too much leeway. If that’s the case, they were completely asleep when they didn’t question our Iraq plans.
johndh123 over 14 years ago
hey Bruce, A couple of days ago you posted…Bruce4671 said, 2 days ago “back in my US Army Security days, part of my job was to intercept, decode and publish the secure transmission of “target” countries. …” Me too!
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
tjdestry: but when the Iraqi oil rolls in, we’ll all be rich!
WashPost, Reuters and others have reported that U.S. firms were strangely missing from bidding on Iraq oil field development. After all this, U.S. oil companies are walking away from Iraq’s oil. There’s a story here that will come out eventually. Probably something along the lines that eight years ago they understood the govt. would provide the upfront costs so they wouldn’t have to dip into the trillions of profit.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/12/AR2009121201277.html?wprss=rss_business
I’ll be interested to see what some others here say (and you know who you are) ;-D
bradwilliams over 14 years ago
I think what was being referred to was Bush Jr assertion in his state of the union prior to the start of the Iraq war that oil revenues from Iraq would be used to cover our expenses.
deadheadzan over 14 years ago
Yes, bradwilliams, W did declare that the expenses of the Iraq war would be covered by Iraqi oil revenue. Not that blood for oil is at all acceptable, but that was 1 of the carrots on the stick.
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
neoconman, you’re getting closer to the truth of why the US oil companies are shying away from developing oil fields with the iraqis. China, France, others will now get the oil the previous administration just sort of took for granted we’d be a 50 percent partner
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
so why do you think the US companies didn’t aggressively bid for the right to partner with Iraq for oil, bruce?
Dtroutma over 14 years ago
A review of WHO occupied control from the White House while most of that debt accumulated since 1980 would be worthwhile, but certainly hard for “Reaganomics” fans to dodge.
comYics over 14 years ago
A little national debt to appear that, we need you to work. So we can sit back and relax and rule. A little tax to appear that we need your paper earnings to pay for stuff. Let you think those paper earnings are worth something. We print as much as we need undercover to keep you working.