4deerinmyyard, cleokaya: Oh, Calvin will get the F–but he’ll then complain that math is a religion (and complain about it being officially promulgated in schools), a point on which Hobbes will be supportive.

What happens when Calvin finds out that Hobbes instincts are not exactly up-to-the-mark?
Look at the fright Calvin gets in panel 3 when Hobbes mentions imaginary numbers. The ‘i’ always gave me the shivers too. I could never comprehend what place imagination had in the science of mathematics. It might as well have been art.

Those who have studied Gödel’s theorem will have encountered Supernatural Numbers. Gödel showed that the axioms, proofs and theorems of Typographical Number Theory could be mapped to integers. He proved that natural numbers could not produce a true theorem he constructed (involving self reference since the theorems were about numbers - now mapped to theorems). Supernatural numbers were introduced to make these self referential theorems reachable, like Imaginary numbers did for Reals. Of course, the new set of Natural plus Supernatural integers could be Gödelized the same way, so the result stands.

ultraman says:
wouldn’t it be funny, if after all of hobbes’ mathematical gyrations, he still came up with the correct answer?…….
I am sure he will, ultraman

Imaginary numbers are just that, imaginary. Stuart Gatham’s rant just serves to illustrate mankind’s efforts to explain what he can’t; that God is the Creator and there are some things that just can’t BE explained, even with imaginary numbers. BTW I STILL love Hobbes’ “fuzzy math”! <:-)

“I thought Calvin would be quite good with imaginary numbers.

“Isn’t ‘i’ the imaginary number? That’s a letter…now I’m confused.”

g-engineer: you should know by now that mathematicians never have enough numbers (or variables) so they always make up more as they go along… ;)

@JonD17, the 4th one is a mathematician, of which there are two types: those who can count, and those who can’t.

#1 redskins fan says:

“Imaginary numbers are just that, imaginary.”

Yes, but they still work, so they can’t be much more imaginary than, say, -1. Who ever saw -1 dollar, or put it in his or her wallet? (Credit cards don’t count!)

i love Hobbes face in the 2nd and last panels! Calvin should stop using Hobbes “math” and start doing his own homework! btw Calvin the answer is 13 hopefully evryone else posting comments on here does…if they dont…well then…i only have one thing to say to them:…go back 2 school!and if u cant even do math how can u read write and type?

Instead of asking Hobbes for help with his math homework, Calvin needs to ask Spaceman Spiff. I’m sure he has run into various types of math in his travels across the known (and unknown) universe.

I could be wrong, but I think that Stuart Gathman’s hypothoses (sp?) is a bit of a spoof, to prove that nothing from nothing is still nothing. (credits to Billy Preston)

midiranger-yes, just keep all the lollipops away as you’re calculating the problem using imaginary numbers like $-1 in your wallet. In DC, that’s the sure sign of a pickpocket,”Bmonk”! <:-)

Stuart Gathman!!! As punishment for bringing up Gödel in a comment about a comic strip, I hereby hex thee. May all the radiators in your particular corner of hell go “Thrump!”. (My thanks to Mr. Thurber for a particularly apropos quote.)

For clarity and accuracy, I also prefer Mr. Hofstadter’s explanation of Gödel’s theorem to your own, just so you know.

@Stuart, I’d heard of inaccessible cardinals (A poet-mathematician friend claims they are the Cardinals for whom even the Pope doesn’t have phone numbers), but not the supernaturals, nor superreals, etc. Thanks!

Hobbs neglects to tell Calvin of the recent discovery of a previously unknown whole number between five and six. Many of my former students were well aware of the existence of this number and as a result, their answers were often different from mine ;-)

## margueritem about 15 years ago

Yep, Hobbes and I share math skills…

## TheSpleen about 15 years ago

margueritem, I’m unclear. Are you saying both your and Hobbes’ math skills are imaginary or instinctive?

## cleokaya about 15 years ago

I see an “F” in Calvin’s future and a full inquiry into a tiger’s instinct.

## margueritem about 15 years ago

TheSpleen says:

margueritem, I’m unclear. Are you saying both your and Hobbes’ math skills are imaginary or instinctive?

~They’re both non exsistant.

## black_knight15_au about 15 years ago

Reading these comments prove that it really is true - 3 out of every two people are bad at maths….

## 4deerinmyyard about 15 years ago

Tiger, tiger, teaching math, Leads Calvin down the garden path. Unnecessary obfuscation Can only hinder education.

(Thought I’d beat Warthog to it, for a change.)

## green_engineer about 15 years ago

I thought Calvin would be quite good with imaginary numbers.

Isn’t ‘i’ the imaginary number? That’s a letter…now I’m confused.

## alondra about 15 years ago

Calvin he’s putting you on and you’re falling for it. Just do your own homework.

## prasrinivara about 15 years ago

4deerinmyyard, cleokaya: Oh, Calvin will get the F–but he’ll then complain that math is a religion (and complain about it being officially promulgated in schools), a point on which Hobbes will be supportive.

## Dry and Dusty Premium Member about 15 years ago

Don’t you just love Hobbes expression in the last panel?

## EvilFlo about 15 years ago

i = square root of -1.

I really like this one… 9+4… calculus…

## carmy about 15 years ago

Oh you proud little Hobbes. You’re a master of thinkology.

## BirishB about 15 years ago

ahhh, grade school. They succeed when so well grounded in the fundamental R’s: readin’. ‘ritin’, and ‘rithmatic …

## ultraman about 15 years ago

wouldn’t it be funny, if after all of hobbes’ mathematical gyrations, he still came up with the correct answer?

## grammahotsho about 15 years ago

Unclear? Clear is my favorite color!

## EMandEM about 15 years ago

What happens when Calvin finds out that Hobbes instincts are not exactly up-to-the-mark? Look at the fright Calvin gets in panel 3 when Hobbes mentions imaginary numbers. The ‘i’ always gave me the shivers too. I could never comprehend what place imagination had in the science of mathematics. It might as well have been art.

## Saucy1121 Premium Member about 15 years ago

BirishB says:

ahhh, grade school. They succeed when so well grounded in the fundamental R’s: readin’. ‘ritin’, and ‘rithmatic …

But not too much on spelling.

## allyheartz about 15 years ago

CALCULUS to figure out 9 + 4. Oh hobbes oh hobbes.

## bald about 15 years ago

calvin is more into life skills rather than school book learning

## stuart about 15 years ago

Those who have studied Gödel’s theorem will have encountered Supernatural Numbers. Gödel showed that the axioms, proofs and theorems of Typographical Number Theory could be mapped to integers. He proved that natural numbers could not produce a true theorem he constructed (involving self reference since the theorems were about numbers - now mapped to theorems). Supernatural numbers were introduced to make these self referential theorems reachable, like Imaginary numbers did for Reals. Of course, the new set of Natural plus Supernatural integers could be Gödelized the same way, so the result stands.

## JanLC about 15 years ago

Where’s Charlie Epps when you need him?

## JonD17 about 15 years ago

margueritem says:

TheSpleen says:

margueritem, I’m unclear. Are you saying both your and Hobbes’ math skills are imaginary or instinctive?

They’re both non exsistant….. Marg, I was thinking they were instinctively imaginary, like mine ;=/

## JonD17 about 15 years ago

BlackKnight15 says: Reading these comments prove that it really is true - 3 out of every two people are bad at maths……… and the 4th one?

## JonD17 about 15 years ago

ultraman says: wouldn’t it be funny, if after all of hobbes’ mathematical gyrations, he still came up with the correct answer?……. I am sure he will, ultraman

## TheDOCTOR about 15 years ago

MISTER WATTERSON:PLEASE COME BACK! WE MISS YOU, CALVIN, HOBBES….and THE INFAMOUS SNOWMEN OF THE INNER PSYCHE.

## johnnydoc5 about 15 years ago

imaginary numbers aren’t all that they are cracked up to be. there is no eleventeen or thirty-twelve, just i.

## Silverpearl about 15 years ago

OOps!! they forgot X!!

## Steve_Barker about 15 years ago

The reality of it all is that everything is imaginary. Do the math. It all adds up.

## bleepingdeadalien about 15 years ago

Tigers are like that…I nominate Hobbes to handle the stimulus package!

## briankblough about 15 years ago

Imaginary numbers are just that, imaginary. Stuart Gatham’s rant just serves to illustrate mankind’s efforts to explain what he can’t; that God is the Creator and there are some things that just can’t BE explained, even with imaginary numbers. BTW I STILL love Hobbes’ “fuzzy math”! <:-)

## midiranger about 15 years ago

## bmonk about 15 years ago

green_engineer says:“I thought Calvin would be quite good with imaginary numbers.

“Isn’t ‘i’ the imaginary number? That’s a letter…now I’m confused.”

g-engineer: you should know by now that mathematicians

neverhave enough numbers (or variables) so they always make up more as they go along… ;)@

JonD17, the 4th one is a mathematician, of which there are two types: those who can count, and those who can’t.#1 redskins fan says:“Imaginary numbers are just that, imaginary.”

Yes, but they still work, so they can’t be much more imaginary than, say, -1. Who ever saw -1 dollar, or put it in his or her wallet? (Credit cards don’t count!)

## Northwoodser about 15 years ago

To Stuart Gathman I can only say “Huh?” To Hobbes, “Right on ”

## Wildmustang1262 about 15 years ago

Sorry, the mathematician is not my subject. I am not very good on the mathematician, anyway. Stuart Gatham’s comment is waaay toooo complicated! HUH?

## Radical-Knight about 15 years ago

I think Hobbs is related to some goober I had as a math teacher when I was in grade school. Made perfect sense then. Huh?

## LandriSheppard about 15 years ago

i love Hobbes face in the 2nd and last panels! Calvin should stop using Hobbes “math” and start doing his own homework! btw Calvin the answer is 13 hopefully evryone else posting comments on here does…if they dont…well then…i only have one thing to say to them:…go back 2 school!and if u cant even do math how can u read write and type?

## musicnut1986 about 15 years ago

Instead of asking Hobbes for help with his math homework, Calvin needs to ask Spaceman Spiff. I’m sure he has run into various types of math in his travels across the known (and unknown) universe.

## JonD17 about 15 years ago

I could be wrong, but I think that Stuart Gathman’s hypothoses (sp?) is a bit of a spoof, to prove that nothing from nothing is still nothing. (credits to Billy Preston)

## LandriSheppard about 15 years ago

TheDoctor(whatever ur name is) i agree!!!!

## briankblough about 15 years ago

midiranger-yes, just keep all the lollipops away as you’re calculating the problem using imaginary numbers like $-1 in your wallet. In DC, that’s the sure sign of a pickpocket,”Bmonk”! <:-)

## tirnaaisling about 15 years ago

It’s a shame that mathematicians who obviously have no imagination had to invent an imaginary number just to show the world that they had some.

Go Hobbes!

## tirnaaisling about 15 years ago

Just to prove that supernatural numbers really do exist, here’s what wikipedia has to say about them

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural_numbers

Oy oy oy!

## ChiehHsia about 15 years ago

Stuart Gathman!!! As punishment for bringing up Gödel in a comment about a comic strip, I hereby hex thee. May all the radiators in your particular corner of hell go “Thrump!”. (My thanks to Mr. Thurber for a particularly apropos quote.)

For clarity and accuracy, I also prefer Mr. Hofstadter’s explanation of Gödel’s theorem to your own, just so you know.

## mark.berte about 15 years ago

This seems all so irrationally complex, me, I vote for surreal numbers like in Dali’s clocks!

## BirishB about 15 years ago

Numbers don’t lie; but mathematicians and statisticians sure do …

## KingTHC about 15 years ago

Calvin is screwed if Hobbes is his math tutor.

## cozila about 15 years ago

Hobbes’ definitely got a french brain for his maths…

## unemandarine about 15 years ago

margueritem says: Yep, Hobbes and I share math skills…

I believe I too have Hobbes math skills…

Poor Clavin, I don’t think he knows Hobbes is messing with his head.

## mrprongs about 15 years ago

Should be an eleventeen. Fits the already established pattern.

## tabbylynn about 15 years ago

calvins face in the 3rd panel looks like me when they say math. love how hobbes is so smart and proud of himself.

## bmonk about 15 years ago

@

Stuart, I’d heard of inaccessible cardinals (A poet-mathematician friend claims they are the Cardinals for whom even the Pope doesn’t have phone numbers), but not the supernaturals, nor superreals, etc. Thanks!## mariolink42 about 15 years ago

wow hobbes is so smart XD

## mwachowski about 15 years ago

maybe hobbes didn’t go to math school, but it seems that he went to LAW school

## riddlewk about 15 years ago

I think that I finally understand the Economic Stimulus Plan now! Thanks Hobbes!

## arunraja about 15 years ago

eleventeen…funny

ARC

## cleopv154 about 15 years ago

that’s why I never got an A in math!! imaginary numbers!!!! gosh I always forgot about those!!!

## saguaro_48 about 15 years ago

Hobbs neglects to tell Calvin of the recent discovery of a previously unknown whole number between five and six. Many of my former students were well aware of the existence of this number and as a result, their answers were often different from mine ;-)

## dsbairdks about 15 years ago

Making things complicated

## Arch_Angel about 15 years ago

You All know the answer right. The answer is D. :D

## dsbairdks almost 15 years ago

Making simple things complicated

## thebawse2020 almost 9 years ago

The square root of -1 is i, which is an imaginary number

## suwin.supasathian over 2 years ago

Uh calvin, this is a hint : start with 1 ends with 3