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  1. Jib76

    Jib76 said, 9 months ago

    John 21:14-17
    New International Version (NIV)
    14 This was now the third time Jesus appeared to his disciples after he was raised from the dead. 15 When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?” “Yes, Lord,” he said, “you know that I love you.” Jesus said, “Feed my lambs.” 16 Again Jesus said, “Simon son of John, do you love me?” He answered, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.” Jesus said, “Take care of my sheep.” 17 The third time he said to him, “Simon son of John, do you love me?” Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, “Do you love me?” He said, “Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you.” Jesus said, “Feed my sheep!"

  2. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, 9 months ago

    Pope Francis is a social conservative who believes in social justice, and thinks the latter as important as the former, in fact, thinks they are linked together.


    Amazing how many Catholics are surprised at this. They have been merely pro-birth so long, that they have come to think that THAT was being pro-life. Pro-life for Francis means not only being against abortion, but also (like his immediate predecessors) being against war, poverty, and the death penalty. Some folks might say, “Everyone is against war and poverty.” True. But that does not mean for those folks, as it does for Francis, that they are obligated to do something to oppose war and fight poverty, to feed the hungry, heal the sick, and comfort the afflicted, to encourage equality and a more compassionate and just society, albeit within traditional social norms.


    Pope Francis is not interested in your rights, he is interested in your duties to God and to your brother. And he makes it very clear that to him and his God, your obligations and duties toward you neighbor do not begin and end with leaving him alone.


    He exemplifies social conservatism at its best, and stands in direct opposition to libertarian conservatism at its worst. (I hate to call it that: the most ardent libertarian I know calls conservatism evil, and thinks “libertarian Republican” a contradiction in terms.)


    Social and libertarian conservatism are in fact quite opposed to one another when each is considered in its pure form, but the GOP must stand with one foot it each. The combination is in practice, I sometimes think, worse than either one by itself, for it tends to put forward the worst of each: a regressive view of society AND a heartless unconcern for the uncompetitive or unfortunate. It is the root of most of the hypocrisy we see in conservative policy. Mixed together in a better way, you might end up with a pragmatic and compassionate conservatism such as George Bush feebly and ineffectually strove for. Instead we see the libertarians drive compassion out of the GOP, while the social conservatives block actual liberation.


    If you think, dear conservative reader, this shoe does not fit you, then you have my permission not to wear it. I can only base these general observations on the conservatives whom I actually know, and what I hear them say.

  3. ConserveGov

    ConserveGov said, 9 months ago

    @Doughfoot

    Nice post, but wrong!
    Conservatives want to help people who are less fortunate improve their lot in life. To prosper and fulfill the dreams all people have in their youth.
    Conservatives understand that tragedy strikes and people need a helping hand at times in their life. That’s probably why conservatives on average give more to charity than liberals.
    Conservatives see potential in every person, while liberals patronize the poor.
    Liberals look at the poor like pets at an animal shelter. Helpless little creatures that superior people must clothe, feed and provide shelter for life.
    This leads to a cycle of dependency that robs people (and generations after them) of dignity, dreams and true happiness.
    Jesus would be a Conservative if he was alive today.

  4. jnik23260

    jnik23260 said, 9 months ago

    @ConserveGov

    So would Jesus cut taxes for the rich, cut food stamps for the poor, deny rights to gays, and make war on other countries?

  5. Michael wme

    Michael wme said, 9 months ago

    @ConserveGov

    The Obamabot, left-wing Fox News has rather different statistics than the ones you seem to be referencing.

  6. piobaire

    piobaire said, 9 months ago

    @Doughfoot

    Doughfoot, thank you for an eloquent and reasoned post. I think you are correct.

  7. piobaire

    piobaire said, 9 months ago

    ConserveGov., thank you for your polite response to that of Doughfoot. Keep in mind that none of us can know what is another’s heart or mind, let alone the hearts and minds of a group.

    I sincerely hope that what you posted about the attitude of conservatives is true. Unfortunately, those attitudes are not always shown by current Republican or Tea party policies.

    I don’t think you are correct about the attitudes of liberals. I think the liberals / progressives want to see fair wages and working conditions, protection for the environment, a rising standard of living for all, and help for the needy. I don’t know any who are in favor of generational poverty. Every liberal / progressive I know talks about helping people rise, to stand on their own two feet, to be a productive member of society. And they act on those principles, giving of their time or money or both.

    Lastly, can you provide information about who gives more to charity? If the conservatives (and the radical neo-conservatives, who I view as a different set, based on their apparent policies) give more, good for them! Sincere cheers. However, when you have a huge proportion of the wealth, can’t you afford to give more?

  8. Erik Van Thienen

    Erik Van Thienen said, 9 months ago

    It’s not easy to champion social justice when the money changers not only have taken over the Temple, but most of our society.

  9. masterskrain

    masterskrain GoComics PRO Member said, 9 months ago

    Jesus was the ORIGINAL Liberal!

  10. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, 9 months ago

    Sometimes it seems that some folks are all about “giving” to the unfortunate rather than creating a society in which individual generosity is less necessary, where people can have some security without “relying on the kindness of strangers.” Why might that be?


    In some cases, the genuinely believe that life can’t be made any fairer, and efforts to make it so always fail. I call that despair and giving up, but it is, I suppose, well-meant.


    There are others who think that when they act in concert with their community, state, or nation, to provide help systematically and not individually, it no longer “counts” as virtuous. It is “forced” even when the majority agrees through the democratic process to do it, and only that which is given by personal individual choice matters.

    I have heard them say this: if you vote to raise your own taxes to provide better for your brothers, they still brand you as only spending other people’s money. There are studies that suggest that conservatives give more individually than liberals, but there are plenty of other studies that suggest this is not true. But, who can tell? There are those who don’t advertise all they do or give. Why should I take a charity deduction on my income taxes, and so have my fellow-citizens subsidize my giving? Never was a good idea. And contrary to myth, taxes have always gone for the care of the poor, and providing for them has always been one of the functions of government: even long before the USA was created.


    “Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."


    It should not be, to my mind, about gaining individual merit: it should be about building a just society wherein all members may enjoy, by mutual consent, a degree of security.



  11. Bill Bezemek

    Bill Bezemek said, 9 months ago

    It’s not about conservatives and liberals. “Love the lord your God with all your heart and soul. Love your neighbor like you love yourself.”

  12. jackson49

    jackson49 said, 9 months ago

    silent on usury, and it’s lack of laws. (as usual). the major practice is to ignore its effects, and attend the major church of the war mongers, football.

  13. Jase99

    Jase99 said, 9 months ago

    @ansonia

    Red states give more to charity.

    You can post that meme all you darn well like, but it doesn’t make it true. There is no real way to quantify how much who gives out to what charity. What groups are “red states” giving money to? Does money donated political causes count toward your statistic? What about money donated to churches used for the upkeep of the church? What about national and international charities? Are they counted in your statistic? Is the money donated at charity kettles during the holidays included? Your statistic is utterly meaningless without information to back it up. Sounds like something a “low information voter” would buy into.

  14. Night-Gaunt49

    Night-Gaunt49 said, 9 months ago

    @Doughfoot

    Call it Right Wing Libertarian or Economic Libertarianism. That is where they are interested only in giving free reign to business over humans.

  15. Night-Gaunt49

    Night-Gaunt49 said, 9 months ago

    @ConserveGov

    Conservatives Give More Than Blue Dems

    Although Blue Dem liberal families’ incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).
    http://rednationrising.wordpress.com/2013/06/04/who-gives-more-conservatives-or-liberals/
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    And the opposition—-
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    “The surprise is that liberals are markedly less charitable than conservatives.”

    I found these links fascinating because of what they did not say, more than in what they did say. These articles raised several unaddressed clarifications I need before I can conclude that they communicate valuable information:

    •These articles articulated generosity in terms of giving money versus giving time.

    http://storytellersrus.hubpages.com/hub/Is-there-a-deeper-difference-between-conservatives-and-liberals-when-it-comes-to-obsessing-over-the-poor

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