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  1. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, over 1 year ago

    Then, just perhaps we do not need a military that is larger than the next 8 militaries of the world combined, and costs accordingly? Just perhaps, we do not need to be the world’s policeman? Perhaps, we could have the wealthy of these other countries actually defend themselves instead of competing with us for jobs because they can, as we already protect them?


    How about not getting involved in expensive wars as they cost vast amounts logistically on the far side of the Earth. In which the logistics literally costs hundreds of thousands of dollars for each soldier we have in these unnecessary wars with fanatically religious people? All told, our bloated military could easily be cut by enough to give every man, woman, and child in this country decent health care.


    And all of this without compromising our own safety in the slightest, and in fact being far less hated in the rest of the world. Heck, we could even revive such great ideas as JFK’s Peach Corps. And even use what military we have to actually help people in trouble throughout the world, like we recently did in the Philippine Islands. Good Grief, such acts might even bring back the respect that we once enjoyed in the greater world!!


    Or am I asking for too much logic here?

  2. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, over 1 year ago

    @Robert Landers

    And FYI, these ideas are not Republican Conservative nor liberal Democrat, they are actually Libertarian such as Ron Paul SR. expressed, and got totally dissed by the Republican Party for his troubles!!

  3. Gary Kleppe

    Gary Kleppe said, over 1 year ago

    I agree with cutting the military, but it’s an utter lie to say that reducing spending is the only way to reduce the deficit. Increasing taxes on the upper 1% back to Eisenhower-era levels would go a long way. The government also has the power to print money.

  4. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, over 1 year ago

    @Robert Landers

    Unfortunately, Libertarian proposals that actually help ordinary people are never taken up by the so-called libertarians in the GOP, and they have succeeded in relabeling a certain brand of conservatism as libertarian when it is nothing of the kind, but simply apathy concerning (if not contempt for) the fate of those who are not as clever and competitive as themselves.

    Then again, many libertarians are pie-in-the-sky idealists who are more like the anarchists of an earlier generation, or loonies who think no one should have to obey a law he personally disagrees with. I’ve talked to many of that sort.

    But this country would benefit from a pragmatic libertarian party that was not in pocket of rich men whose “love liberty, and hate equality” and who think that the golden rule is “those who have the gold make the rules.”

    Personally, I can’t think of anything more liberating to people as a whole than knowing that they won’t starve if they lose their jobs, or go bankrupt or untreated if they get sick. To me, those are the essential measures of a “civilized” nation, if any are, along with things like knowing they won’t be persecuted or arrested for their religious practices (or lack thereof), or for their opinions or words.

  5. mikefive

    mikefive said, over 1 year ago

    @Robert Landers

    ’’…we do not need a military that is larger than the next 8 militaries of the world combined, …"

    That sentence is very misleading and a gross exaggeration. We have the second largest active military behind China and are eighth overall.

  6. Michael wme

    Michael wme said, over 1 year ago

    @Robert Landers

    There are goatherds throughout Dar al Islam ready to overrun the US with their staffs and force every American woman to wear an abaya, sheila, and niqab and stop driving, and force every American man to go to the mosque five times a day (and one more little thing men have that will have to be shortened). Plus there will only be one brand of tooth cleaning stick and queues for bread and goat.


    The US needs to double its military to remain safe.

  7. Michael wme

    Michael wme said, over 1 year ago

    @mikefive

    He meant in terms of non-PPP dollars, not divisions (or even PPP dollars).

  8. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, over 1 year ago

    @mikefive

    You are not entirely incorrect. China does have more active duty troops that does the US. But that is not a true measure of actual military power. The US has far more ability to project that power anywhere in the world at any time, and China is basically a land locked military nation that does not have the power to project its millions of men anywhere it wants to. The US Navy alone has some twelve aircraft carrier groups with capabilities that no other military in the world can even come close to. Of course, this costs the US a whole lot of money. The US spends just about 1/3 of all of the money spent on all of the world’s militaries combined. Just about $660 billion compared to about $1.8 trillion for the entire planet. We could cut that budget by about $200 billion, and still spend some 3 times as much as China does.


    What is truly funny to me at least is that I have heard some on these comment boards state that China is planning on some day attacking the US. The Chinese are NOT that stupid! We are far and away the largest customer for consumer goods that China deals with in trade. You do NOT cut off the very hand that feeds you!!


    Besides which, even with increased efforts China is not going to catch up to even the Japanese, (or even Taiwan for that matter) in the Western Pacific. And they certainly are never going to be able to even come close to matching the US Navy in the Pacific. And without a superior Navy all the Chinese in the world are never going to swim the Pacific Ocean. Heck, without a great Navy even the Japanese would never have been a threat to the US in WWII in the Pacific either!!


    What I am in essence saying is that this country does not need the largest standing army in the world to keep the US and its interests safe in the world.


    By the way, when you consider that the US only has about 20% of the population of China, even our standing army is far larger to our population than is that of China to its population!

  9. piobaire

    piobaire said, over 1 year ago

    In some respects I agree with you. However, police have to be accountable to a civil authority, or there is a risk that the police are used to advance the interests of those who can make profits. To whom is America accountable?
    Second, police get paid. Who is paying us to be the world’s police? The cost of keeping the peace has to be shared, and not just by the working class and the middle class of America. Neither should the cost be borne by all the classes of America. America bears a disproportionate burden.
    America should be proud of its role in World War II. America fought, helped other countries fight, and helped even the former Axis powers recover from the war. Some of what we’ve done since then, as a nation, is open to criticism.

  10. piobaire

    piobaire said, over 1 year ago

    Americans are indeed a generous and compassionate people. It’s too bad we are not always so to Americans. Patriotism should not alone be measured by service in war, or wearing a flag pin, but by investing in America, building infrastructure, creating lasting wealth through creating jobs in America. Then people could take care of themselves, and there would be fewer needing government help.

  11. The Wolf In Your Midst

    The Wolf In Your Midst said, over 1 year ago

    So you admit that the military is a government jobs program? Maybe we could make one of those that doesn’t involve quite so much killing.

  12. The Wolf In Your Midst

    The Wolf In Your Midst said, over 1 year ago

    Just be sure not to accidentally throw out the hard drive containing $4 million worth of Bitcoins like one poor sap did.

  13. lonecat

    lonecat said, over 1 year ago

    ConGov says: “Nice fantasy Toles, but both of you know that the only way to lower the debt is to stop spending so &$/! much!”
    Actually, that’s not true. Another way is to get people employed again so that tax revenues increase.

  14. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, over 1 year ago

    Actually, Con Gov, history demonstrates the opposite.

  15. todyoung

    todyoung GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    Where does ‘he’ buy ‘his’ bitcoins? Last I looked it would cost ‘him/us’ $200USD per coin.

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