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  1. ossiningaling

    ossiningaling said, 4 days ago

    Fetus’ never endings begin to develop at seven weeks gestation, but since the nervous system isn’t fully formed, it isn’t possible to determine if a fetus actually feels pain. That process takes around 23 – 25 weeks, well after most abortions.

  2. Jeff Kiser

    Jeff Kiser GoComics PRO Member said, 4 days ago

    I love the comment "it isn’t “possible to determine” if a fetus feels pain. I think the presumption of the argument seems to be “ok go ahead and cause pain until we are sure that it causes pain”. An interesting moral position. And yet there are studies indicating that pain is felt, but lets keep causing pain until we are absolutely sure we are causing it. The dispute between doctors is that it does indeed cause pain, and of course that no pain is felt, but there seems to be a split in the argument by doctors. But lets set that aside and continue to cause pain, until we are absolutely sure. An amazing argument, just not a very logical or moral one.

  3. Beau Nobo

    Beau Nobo said, 4 days ago

    According to the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics report from 2004, in 2003 most abortion requests were granted, with 19,500 legal abortions performed.

  4. KlondikeMike

    KlondikeMike said, 4 days ago

    Yup, eggs feel pain in their little egg souls; nervous systems aren’t even necessary.
    That means we better stop cutting down trees and crushing rocks just in case they also feel pain in their li’l tree-and-rock souls.

  5. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, 4 days ago

    Do folks have to use power mowers on the lawn to mask the screams coming from the grass? Eggs, even fertilized ones, aren’t chickens in the first few days after cell division begins, neither are human blastophore that haven’t attached to the uterus, or for some time thereafter.

    Ovulation isn’t birth, but questioning whether that egg will make the 50% that do get fertilized and attach to the womb, is immediately a person, and answering that it IS, isn’t far off.

  6. martens misses all her friends

    martens misses all her friends GoComics PRO Member said, 3 days ago

    @Jeff Kiser

    How do you define “pain”? Is an amoeba that swims away from a given chemical feeling pain? Is consciousness necessary to feel pain, i.e., does the organism have to have a sense of self? Is a reflex action proof of feeling pain? Until youi can answer such questions, your “moral position” is quite weak. Try again, maybe you can get something to discuss seriously.

  7. Lynne B

    Lynne B GoComics PRO Member said, 3 days ago

    @martens misses all her friends

    By your argument, every time you have a glass of wine or take a tylenol, you cause your body’s cells pain! STOP DOING ANYTHING.

  8. Lynne B

    Lynne B GoComics PRO Member said, 3 days ago

    Before the fetus has a nervous system connected to the brain, before the brain is developed enough to have brain waves, then actually, it is a very safe assumption that it cannot perceive pain. When someone at the end of their lives does not have brain waves, does not have nervous system communication to a functional brain, then we are quite certain that they are not “feeling pain.” What special magic is there supposed to be which makes it function differently before development is complete?

    All but the most right-wing ideologically driven groups of physicians and researchers have set the minimum, earliest possible time that a developing fetus can feel pain as after week 16 of development, with the likelihood of it only becoming significant after weeks 18-20. That is well before the vast majority of abortions, which happen when the only fully functional human with any level of consciousness is the mother — who oddly enough has a life worth worrying about as well.

    But hey, if a false equivalency and false assertion can be used to support a right-wing talking point, well, that has never failed to happen.

  9. TJDestry

    TJDestry GoComics PRO Member said, 3 days ago

    We need to stop abortion so we’ll have more kids to deny health care to, to deny food to and to send overseas to be killed on GOP nation-building exercises.

  10. crabbyrino

    crabbyrino GoComics PRO Member said, 2 days ago


  11. NeoconMan

    NeoconMan said, 1 day ago


    ^ No, your fertilized eggs belong to the Congress of the United States and only they can tell you what to do with them.

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